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You are here: Home / Thailand Living / The Cost of Living in Thailand in 2023 – How Much Do You Need?

The Cost of Living in Thailand in 2023 – How Much Do You Need?

Let’s face it, one of the main reasons people move to Thailand is because it’s pretty cheap. It's an awesome country, too, of course.

But aside from anecdotal stories, what is the actual cost of living in Thailand?

Well, while housing is very affordable, food items can be pretty expensive, depending on your dietary requirements and whether or not you’re partial to imported foods such as wine, olives and Marmite.

Additionally, branded clothes and beauty products can be pretty expensive too: think Nike (real) trainers and personal care products like skin creams.

Overall, though, Thailand still ranks as one of the cheapest places to live in SE Asia. If you're from Western Europe or the US, Canada, or Australia, you can expect your living expenses to be halved overnight, and in some cases more.

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Contents

  1. Cost of Living
  2. Condo Rental Prices
  3. Utility Bills
  4. Internet, TV, Cell Phone
  5. Food Prices
  6. Clothing
  7. Transportation
  8. Personal Care
  9. Entertainment
  10. Healthcare
  11. School Fees
  12. Maids & Nannies
  13. Domestic Vacations
  14. Money Transfer & Banking
  15. How Much Per Month?
  16. My Personal Situation
  17. Final Thoughts & Advice

Cost of Living in Thailand

While Thailand is generally inexpensive, it's worth bearing in mind that the cost of living does vary in different parts of the country.

I live in Bangkok, where housing costs are higher than cities like Chiang Mai in the North, Phuket down South, or Khon Kaen in the Northeast.

Food prices vary too, but not as much as housing.

Generally speaking, things get cheaper the further you stray from tourist and city areas. The more off the beaten track you are the cheaper street food and local produce is. It makes sense, since overheads get more expensive as you get closer to the city.

That said, there is always the exception to the rule. For example, you can find cheaper restaurants in Bangkok than Koh Samui or Phuket, at times. You can find vegetables just as cheap in Pattaya as you can up North, if you know the right markets and sellers.

With that in mind let's explore living costs, so you can get an idea of what it costs to live in Thailand.

I’ll be adding categories and items to this list periodically, but if you want to know the price of a particular item or service in the meantime, please let me know and I’ll do my best to research it for you.

Where I have stated prices for rent and individual items, you can use the currency convertor below to convert from my figures in Baht to your native currency.


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Apartment/Condo Rental Prices

Let's start with the cost of housing. Most people who relocate to Thailand start out renting an apartment/condo.

The following condo rental prices are averages based on a pool of property listings for Bangkok, and on condos within walking distance to an MRT/BTS station.

If you plan on living in Chiang Mai or somewhere up North, you can knock about 30 percent off these starting prices. For example, if a condo is 10,000 to rent in Bangkok, you will likely get something similar for 7,000 Baht in Chiang Mai.

Islands like Koh Samui and Phuket tend to be 15-20 percent cheaper. It's not an exact science, though, as certain areas are more affluent than others, and gated communities more expensive than public access developments.

If you're living in rural Isaan, knock off 50% or more off the starting prices seen below.

  • Modern 2 Bed 2 Bath Condo, 65 Sq. m (central Bangkok) – ฿40-45,000
  • Modern 2 Bed 1 Bath 65 Sq. m (4 stops to central – ฿17-20,000
  • Modern 1 bed, 50 Sq. m (central Bangkok) – ฿30-35,000
  • Modern 1 bed, 40 Sq. m (4 stops to central – ฿12-20,000
  • Modern studio, 30 Sq. m (4 stops to central – ฿8,000-9,000
  • Modern studio, 30 Sq. m (central Bangkok – ฿13-16,000

If you're thinking of buying a condo in Thailand? You'll want to read this first.

The cost of rent in Bangkok is 65% lower than London

Utility Bills

Electricity

Electricity costs less than half that of the US and UK, and likely many European countries. However, while cheap, remember that you will need air conditioning in Thailand, and this can cause your bill to sky-rocket.

It's hard to avoid using air-con at night in the hottest months of the year, but limit it during the day if you can.

For a 1-bedroom condo, with heavy air-con use, you're likely to spend approximately 1,500 Baht per month on electricity. If you live in a house and run 2 or 3 units, you could be looking at 4-6,000 Baht.

Use it conservatively and you will pay half that amount or less.

Water

Water is super-cheap in Thailand. Compare my £40 a month bill in the UK to my 100 Baht a month bill in Thailand :). The equivalent of around £2.

This is great news, because you're likely to have a few showers a day at times.

Internet, TV, Cell Phone

Internet

Your Internet connection bill will depend on whether you live in an apartment, condo or house. In an apartment you may pay to be on an existing shared network. This usually costs around 550 Baht a month.

This comprises the usual 55 Mbps download and 30 Mbps upload speed. In a rented condo or house you will have more choice over your provider, or take on the existing connection. You can upgrade or downgrade this as you see fit. Faster speeds will run you closer to 990 -1,300 Baht per month.

Thailand's Internet is surprisingly very good, and ranks an impressive fourth on the Speedtest Global Index.

Cable TV

You might quickly bore of traditional Thai drama series, in which case you can get an English TV package from 199 Baht per month. Try this one from AIS.

Want sports, including football, baseball, basketball and cricket? Try TrueVision’s Now Gold plan for 999 p/m.

You might want to bundle in your Internet and cell phone with one of these companies, too. That way you'll save a pretty penny on paying for the services separately.

Netflix in Thailand costs 349 Baht per month, but you've likely already got a subscription from back home. Either way, get yourself a reliable VPN so that you can stream shows from your home country, too.

+ Check out my VPN recommendations here

Cell Phone

A comprehensive cell phone package can also serve as your Internet access, saving you money on a home connection. You can get an inclusive monthly package, or top up as and when you need.

There are some excellent deals around. Just check out this Dtac all-inclusive deal. Just 900 Baht for 10 Mbps for 90 days.

Drop down to a respectable 4 or 5 Mbps and you're looking at around 500-600 Baht per month. Or, depending on your home Internet and TV requirements, True and AIS both have a variety of bundles, too.

Food Prices

Your food shopping bills will be much cheaper in Thailand. Mine are half what they are in the UK. However, it depends on your eating habits and preferences.

As noted previously, imported goods are expensive. If you want a specific brand of peanut butter, or a certain type of wine from back home, expect to pay a huge lump of import tax on top.

Buying fruit and vegetables from markets can be cheaper than supermarkets.

Do a big shop once a week, if you have a fridge. People tend to nip round to 7-11 for everything, and not only does this result in eating unhealthy snacks all the time, it costs a lot more to live this way.

  • Loaf of brown bread – ฿57
  • Penne Pasta (500g) – ฿55
  • Rice (1kg) – ฿30
  • Olive Oil (500ml) – ฿199
  • Litre of Pepsi Cola – ฿20
  • Oreos (standard pack) – ฿30
  • Heineken (490ml can) – ฿59
  • Bunch of 8 bananas (local stall) – ฿30
  • 4 fresh mangoes (local stall) – ฿60
  • Water (0.33l) – ฿10
  • Bottle of wine – ฿600-700
  • Local beer 0.33l ฿35

*Prices sourced from Big C & Topps supermarkets. Please note that as with any country, supermarkets are competitive and pricing varies for different items, albeit by a few Baht.

The cost of food in Bangkok is 44% lower than New York

Cost of Clothing

Here's a few clothing items, so that you can get an idea of international brands vs local brands.

The great thing about Thailand is that you generally wear light clothes, like shorts and t-shirts. The need for trousers, jumpers and jackets is eliminated by the weather, which means you just don't spend much on clothes, unless of course you are fashionista.

As you can see, if you shop for clothes in places like Tesco and local markets, you'll save a pretty penny compared with Western brands. Buying locally from independent shops and markets also supports local people, which is cool.

  • 1 pair Levi 501 jeans– ฿3,790
  • 1 summer Maxi dress in Topshop – ฿3,550
  • 1 pair of Nike Air Max ฿2,000- 5,700
  • 1 tailor-made business suit – ฿3,000-8,000
  • 1 FBT running vest from Tesco – ฿189
  • 1 pair of kaki shorts from a local market – ฿250
  • 1 t-shirt from a local market – ฿80-200

The cost of clothes in Bangkok is 53% cheaper than Sydney

Price of Transportation

Getting around Bangkok is very affordable. The BTS and MRT lines cost on average 50 Baht per journey (one way), sometimes less and sometimes more, depending on your journey.

And then there are motorbike taxis, which range from 20-40 Baht, depending on how far you are going.

Buses are the cheapest mode of transport, starting at 10 Baht per journey. However, the journey is usually slow and hot.

Outside of the Big Mango you're going to want your own car.  Rental starts from approximately 12,000 Baht per month. Gas wise, you're looking at 1,500 to 2,000 Baht per month; not exactly cheap but half what you'll pay in the West.

A cheaper option is to rent a motorbike. This will set you back somewhere between 1,500 and 3,000 Baht per month, depending on the location. Gas is obviously much cheaper and will set you back 500-700 Baht per month.

  • 1 litre of premium gasoline – ฿35-40
  • Public taxi trip (8 Km) ฿180 (Base rate ฿35)
  • Monthly train ticket: BTS – ฿1,100 (Rabbit card) – MRT – ฿1,499

The cost of transportation in Bangkok is 37% cheaper than Berlin

Cost of Personal Care

Laundry

The good news is that you might never have to do your own laundry again. It's super affordable to give your laundry to a local shop once a week.

The cost is usually calculated per kilogram. Some services  also offer a monthly fee for any amount of items under a certain amount of items, if you get what I mean.

If you find a laundry service in Thailand not too far from your apartment they will deliver too. Or, you can use a locker/delivery service like Washdrop.

Most apartment blocks have coin operated machines too, where you use your own liquid and fabric conditioner. These are shared between residents. These machines may not be maintained that well, though, and you may not always be charmed by the results.

Haircut

I once got my haircut in Kalasin for 40 Baht. Okay, so I'm bald and only needed a shave down, but he also trimmed my neck hairs and did a little shoulder massage.

In Bangkok, I used to visit a salon in Huay Kwang that charged me 100 Baht. It was worth every penny just for the banter with the ladies in there.

If you do have hair and want some style to it, you're looking at around 200 Baht plus. Prices naturally increase in brand-name salons like Tony & Guy.

For women, expect to pay 200-1,500 Baht, depending on what you need done, be that a wash and blow dry, a trim and straightening/curling, or coloring,.

Gym Membership

Good gyms aren't as cheap as some people presume. Expect to pay around 1,250 Baht for a monthly membership that includes access to the gym, showers, and sauna.

Up your membership to 3,000 a month and you will get access to classes. A personal trainer will cost 1,000-2,500 per session, depending on how “posh” the gym is.

Luckily, many apartment/condo blocks have a small gym on site. This will consist of free weights up to around 26kg, a few workout machines, a few running machines, a couple of bikes, a couple of exercise balls, and space to do stretching on mats. It won't be much but it is usually enough for the average person.

Some hotels allow gym public gym membership, too, which is usually cheaper than the branded high street gyms, so check out the nice hotels in your area and see what's on offer.

If you don't mind dripping in sweat, some local parks offer outdoor exercise classes free of charge. There used to be one behind my apartment in Victory Monument. Every day at 5pm without fail, the music would pump and residents would work out to the motivation of a spritely young chap in spandex.

Personal Care Items (toiletries)

Here's some examples of pricing on common toiletries.

  • Deodorant, Nivea roll-on, (50ml) – ฿92
  • 1 box of 16 tampons (Laurie Slim)  – ฿75
  • Gillette Mach 3 Sensitive (4 blades) – ฿459
  • Hair shampoo 2-in-1 (400 ml ~ 12 oz.) – ฿89
  • Tube of toothpaste (large Colgate standard) – ฿55
  • Nappies: 64 Pc (Mamy Poko – medium) – ฿669
  • Toilet rolls (Scott 6 roll pack) – ฿79
  • Toothpaste (Colgate – large tube) – ฿100

The cost of personal care in Bangkok is 73% cheaper than Bern

Quick Tip:

Personal care items can be pretty expensive. I can't use any other razors other than the Gillette Mac 3, or the Fuzion series. But this costs me £10 for four blades in Thailand!

Similarly, if you are used to expensive face creams, expect them to be even more expensive here.

Of course there are alternatives, but if there is a particular brand that you can't live without, then you will do well to stock up on it before you arrive. Then, going forward, ask anyone who's visiting you to bring a re-stock.

Cost of Entertainment

The great thing about living in Thailand is that you can actually have a social life without being broke. For example, a movie theatre ticket is around 200 Baht, a coffee can cost as little as 30 Baht from a street vendor, or 60-80 Baht in an independent cafe.

Beer costs as little as 60 Baht per bottle!

  • Lunch for 2 (Black Canyon café): 2 coffees, 2 main meals – ฿400 Baht
  • 2 adult tickets to the movies – ฿400
  • 1 cocktail drink in downtown club – ฿250
  • Grande Cappuccino in Starbucks – ฿120
  • 1 beer in neighborhood bar (500ml or 1pt.) ฿100 Baht
  • Bottle of Thai produced wine – ฿300-400
  • Italian or Chilean imported wine – ฿600–750
  • 1 month prepaid mobile tariff with 3GB (DTAC) – ฿399 + vat
  • 1 month gym membership at True Fitness (Asoke) ฿2,099 (dependent on sales rep and promotions)
  • 1 package of Marlboro cigarettes – ฿90

The cost of entertainment in Bangkok is 39% cheaper than Paris

Quick Tip:

The trick to saving money on entertainment is to know where you are going and what prices to expect.

Tourists tend to get stung because they are eating out in tourist areas in restaurants known to be expensive.

Also consider that some restaurants are considered more prestigious because they are in an upmarket area or entertain a certain clientele. So avoid the tourist traps and overpriced “hi-so” joints and eat locally.

You'll soon get a handle on scoping out local places that sell the same food and drink as they do in tourist-targeted restaurants and bars at half the price.

You'll also find that Starbucks really isn't much cheaper than it is back home. It is easy to run up $150 worth of lattes in a month. Instead, choose independent coffee shops. These are in abundance in Thailand, and many are really cool places to chill, meet friends, and even work.

Healthcare

You will probably need health insurance.

Of course, you could not take out a plan and instead squirrel away some cash each month in a pot, which will hopefully cover any illness or surgery you need in the future. You'll need to save a fair bit, though.

A hospital visit to see a doctor, with a blood test and a prescription, will set you back 1,500-2,000 Baht. Pretty cheap. However,  basic surgery could set you back 50-100,000 Baht. Even a few nights in hospital, at 8,000 a night plus treatments, could end up at 50k.

This considered, a health insurance policy is a good idea.

Depending on your budget, you can go for either international coverage or just local coverage. The former will cover you on trips abroad and when back home, the latter only in Thailand.

+ Get a quote here for international insurance

+ Get a quote here for domestic insurance

There is a cheaper option to private hospitals, and that is a Thai government hospital. You will still have to pay, though. The downside us, the queues are long and staff rarely speak any English. Some of the hospitals are lacking in resource, too. You could be waiting a very long time surgery considered non-urgent, which you may consider to be quite urgent.

More on hospitals/healthcare here.

School Fees

Up until this point, you're probably thinking how amazingly cheap it is in Thailand. But one thing that isn't cheap, is a private school education.

You probably won't want to put your child in a public school because standards are poor and the first language is Thai, of course.

To achieve a similar education standard to that which you will find in the UK, France, Germany, Sweden, Switzerland, US, and Canada, you will need to pay privately.

In Bangkok, specifically, private school fees can set you back anywhere from 350,000 Baht per year to 1m Baht per year, depending on the school and age of the child.

If you are a teacher and you have secured a job at a private school, the likelihood is that your child will get a place at that school as one of the benefits.

Similarly, if you are relocating to Thailand for a job with a multinational company, particularly a financial firm, they may allocate a subsidy for your child's education.

But for those who are not teaching in a public school, or working for a company that does not provide a subsidy, schooling can be very expensive.

And when it comes to private schools, it isn't just the tuition fees that you have to consider. You must also factor in additional costs such as transport, after-school clubs, school trips, and all the other stuff that comes along with schooling.

So before you plan your move, you need to factor in the cost of education.

You can see a list of private schools in Bangkok and their fees by clicking here.

Maids & Nannies

If you're working full-time you might want to consider a maid, and if you've got kids, a nanny.

You can hire a full or part-time maid or nanny in Thailand. A full-time maid, one who lives in your house, will cook, do laundry and take care of the kids. The monthly salary will depend on her experience and English-speaking proficiency, but the starting rate is around 15,000 Baht.

A part-time maid, whose duties will include cleaning and laundry, will cost around 100-200 Baht per day, for a few hours work.

If you want a high-end super nanny, who can drive to pick up your kids, do their homework with them, read a bedtime story, and do all the house chores, expect to pay upwards of 30k a month, full time.

Domestic Vacations

One thing I love about living in Thailand is that domestic holidays are amazing and cheap. The weather is usually guaranteed, too.

Flying is, of course, the most expensive mode of travel, but even flights are very cheap. The only route that is expensive is Bangkok to Samui, which will set you back 5,000 Baht each way. This is because of a private monopoly on the airport.

If you don't mind the bus, the train, or a minivan, you can visit all over Thailand at prices unrivaled in most countries.

  • Flights from Bangkok to Phuket are under 3,000 Baht return.
  • An air-con minivan from Bangkok to Hua Hin costs 4,000 Baht
  • The overnight bus from Bangkok to Koh Chang costs 260 Baht
  • An overnight sleeper train to Chiang Mai costs 1,600 Baht

Accommodation is as cheap or expensive as you want it to be. You can stay in hostel for 200 Baht per night, a bungalow for 500 Baht per night, or a 5 star hotel or resort for 6,000 Baht+.

It's up to you!

Money Transfer & Banking

Transferring money from your bank account back home to a Thai bank account is an additional expense you will incur.

You will have to pay your bank transfer fee and the receiving bank fee (usually 500 Baht).

Worst of all, you will be at the mercy of the bank's exchange rate, which of course is not the real (mid-market) rate but a rate the bank sets themselves.

So on a transfer of $1,000, you might end up with a total of $50 in fees. This really does add up over time.

Fortunately, by using Wise, you can cut out the bank fees and get the real exchange rate.

It's easy to do:

  • Simply register a Wise account.
  • Pay the amount you want to transfer by bank transfer or card to Wise.
  • Choose the recipient account.
  • Wise will then send the money onto your bank account in Thailand.

You can send money to anyone, anywhere in the world using this service.

+ Get your first transfer free here

Banking

Additionally, you can set up a Wise Borderless account, which means you wouldn't need to use a local Thai bank account, though it is useful to have one.

The Borderless account is perfect for travelers and expats because it lets you hold multiple currencies and spend the money in any country at the local conversion rate.

You can also convert money inside the account too (tip: do this on a favorable currency exchange rate day). You'll pay low conversion fees, and zero transaction fees.

You'll be issued with a debit card, too.

This type of account is also useful for those who get paid in multiple currencies; freelance workers, for example.

So let's say you get paid some money in GBP, USD, or AUD:

You can have this money paid into your Borderless account (give the payee your account number), and then you could convert the money inside the account to Thai Baht, or allow the account to convert it into Thai Baht as you spend on your debit card.

With the debit card, you can spend anywhere in the world at the real exchange rate.

  • Free to pay with currencies in your account.
  • Free ATM withdrawals up to $200 a month.
  • Only pay a small conversion fee when you convert your money – typically between 0.35% and 1%.
  • Pay in any currency, anywhere and it will automatically convert the currency in your account with the lowest conversion fee.
  • Free same currency withdrawals for personal account users.

+ Get a Borderless Account Here

How Much Does it Cost to Live in Thailand, Per Month?

From my own expenses living in Bangkok, I’d say that presuming you enjoy an average standard of living in Europe or the US, Canada or Australia, you will need the following amount(s) to maintain that standard in Thailand:

  • Single male/female in Bangkok – ฿50,000
  • Couple in Bangkok – ฿75,000
  • Couple with baby under 2 years old in Bangkok – ฿80,000
  • Couple with child over 2 years old in Bangkok – ฿85,000 (not including school fees)

This includes rent, food, Internet access, gym membership, and going out socializing once/twice a week.

If you plan on living up country somewhere, you may be able to shave as much as 30-50% off these amounts.

If you plan on living in Koh Samui or Phuket, then you can expect to spend about 10-15% less, depending on your drinking habits.

In my experience, you pay less rent on the islands, but eating can be a tad more expensive and you tend to spend more on socializing.

I haven’t lived in Chiang Mai for some time, but when I did I found rent to be about 30% cheaper than Bangkok.

My Personal Situation

I map out my expenses by working out what’s required for my family to be happy, healthy, and enjoy a convenient life.

For example: We live within walking distance of the MRT (train) station, and have the luxury of a cheap restaurant on site at our condo block.

Being able to walk to the station will save you money on taxis. Having cheap food options, with just a phone-call downstairs, is very handy.

Our apartment is a few stops outside of central Bangkok. The money we save on not being so central allows us to take regular holidays in decent hotels.

I don’t drink or smoke anymore, so I save money on buying beer and smokes. I am able to invest this money in having good food at home, which is where a lot of my money goes.

I used to spend 1,500 Baht a month on gym membership. I now use the gym in my building and run in the park when it is cool enough.

I have a wife and a daughter, so I pay medical insurance and life insurance, but you might say this is paid in part by money I saved from giving up my gym membership.

It's about finding a balance that works for you.

Work out what’s important to you: What are your “must haves” and “can do withouts”.

If you’re retired with a tidy pension and savings account, then keeping a tight ship might not be on your agenda.

On the other hand, if you have kids or other dependents that will need a nest egg when you walk through the pearly gates, it makes sense to be smart with your money.

It’s also worth bearing in mind that other expenses do pop up here and there, so you’ll need to make provision for these.

Consider things  like:

  • Visa run/renewal expenses
  • Travel insurance
  • Trips back home
  • Replacing a broken phone or computer

So make sure you have some back up savings for emergencies.

Find out what visa you will need to travel/live in Thailand

Final Thoughts & Advice

If you’re reading this and thinking, “Man, I thought Thailand was a lot cheaper”, don’t let these numbers put you off.

If you don’t mind living in a 27 Sq.m studio apartment, traveling that little bit further into town and aren’t fussed about eating street food and generally living frugally, you can get by on 30-35, 000 Baht per month.

There are many teachers living in Thailand on such a salary.

If you’re smart, you can make cut backs by doing things like buying an Internet phone package and tethering to your computer to save money on home WIFI.

You can buy fruit in bulk from the market instead of buying daily from stalls, or choose to take public transport instead of taxis.

There’s always ways to save money and, at the end of the day, many Thai people live reasonably well on a salary of 20-30,000 Baht.

——-

Think I'm way off the mark?

How much does living in Thailand cost you?

How do these prices stack up to what you pay in your home country?

Leave your comments below.

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  1. Tom says

    January 29, 2023 at 8:48 pm

    Is it possible to simple stay one year in Thailand? What's the expenditure for a single male in Phuket? I'm a 35 year old UK citizen looking to train Muay Thai for a year. Thanks for the amazing information
    Reply

    Jan 29, 2023 at 8:48 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      January 30, 2023 at 4:43 am

      Hi Tom, if you study Muay Thai you can get an education visa to enable a long stay. Check out some of the Muay Thai clubs in Phuket and see if they offer a training course in conjunction with a study visa. More info on that type of visa here: https://www.thethailandlife.com/thailand-education-visaPer month you could live for as little as $1,000 a month. $1,500+ would be preferable though. It really depends on what standard of living you want.
      Reply

      Jan 30, 2023 at 4:43 am

  2. Mark says

    January 26, 2023 at 7:14 pm

    Do you have tips to how to buy a condo?
    Reply

    Jan 26, 2023 at 7:14 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      January 26, 2023 at 7:19 pm

      Yes, please see here: https://www.thethailandlife.com/8-questions-buy-condo-thailand
      Reply

      Jan 26, 2023 at 7:19 pm

  3. Tony banks says

    September 20, 2022 at 10:55 am

    Mike,

    You blog/info on living in Thailand is so helpful,so a big thank you.
    We have stayed in Sukhamvit so I understand the moving a few stops away but etc….we like Bangkok but think staying in Phuket or Chang Mai would suit our lifestyle better for staying these coming two winter months like Jan and Feb etc .
    Do you have any contacts or sites that rent condos or villas at reasonable not tourist rates in these two areas you could send me or point me in thr right direction I would really appreciate that info…..KR
    Tony
    Reply

    Sep 20, 2022 at 10:55 am

  4. Jasenko says

    February 13, 2022 at 12:54 am

    I want to establish contact with you and when I decide to help me with the purchase of an apartment up to 2,100,000 -2,200,000 on the outskirts of Bangkok .... I know Thailand relatively well, especially Bangkok because I have been and lived in Bangkok many times and I have a lot of friends Thais, but also from Europe and the USA who have lived there for years ....
    best regards and thanks for the contact .....

    Jasenko
    Reply

    Feb 13, 2022 at 12:54 am

  5. Eva says

    August 9, 2021 at 5:38 am

    Hi.

    I am a freelance software engineer.

    Do you know how much I will have to pay in taxes for a 200k USD yearly income in Thailand?

    Thanks
    Reply

    Aug 09, 2021 at 5:38 am

    • Bubba says

      August 9, 2021 at 7:00 am

      As a fellow US citizen, I understand your issue. First, you need to realize that the USA and Thailand have in place to avoid double-taxation. It will depend on where and in what form you derive your income. You will still have to pay US taxes. More importantly, how are you going to legally work in Thailand? Do you have a work-permit and visa? If not, the whole issue of taxation become redundant.
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      Aug 09, 2021 at 7:00 am

    • Mike Bassett says

      August 9, 2021 at 2:31 pm

      Everyone has tax liability in Thailand and it has double tax treaties with many countries, so even if you are a digital nomad working remotely in Thailand as a web developer or blogger, you will need to pay tax in Thailand if you aren't paying tax in your home country.Income tax in Thailand is based on assessable income, which covers employment salary, professional fees, interests, dividends and capital gains on securities, any royalties, rental of property, and income from consulting or contracting. Basically, most forms of earnings over THB150,000 per year are taxable in Thailand.Requirements The Thai tax year runs from January 1st to December 31st. It is a taxpayer's duty to register for a tax identification number, which you should apply for at your nearest revenue office within 60 days of receiving your first salary, by submitting your passport and proof of address along with the application form. You will then be required to file your income tax returns and pay tax to the revenue department by March 31st for each previous tax year, and there are penalties if you delay the process or make a late payment. As a taxpayer, you must also notify the revenue department officers of any changes in circumstance, and you may be expected to provide additional documents or information at any point and comply with any summons.If you fail to pay the total sum required, some of your assets could be seized and sold without a court decision. The money raised from the sale will pay any overdue tax arrears.Foreigners should note that when renewing work permits, they will need to show a copy of their tax submission for the previous year. Some companies handle these for their employees, so if you are working, better to ask the Thai HR on how to handle this tax, whether you will pay it or they will handle it for you.Tax exemptions and rates in ThailandExpats earning less than 150,000 Baht are exempt from income tax.Expats earning more than 150,000 Baht but less than 500,000 Baht will be taxed at 10%.Expats earning more than 500,000 Baht up to 1 Million Baht will be taxed at 20%.Over 1 Million but less than 4 Million Baht will be taxed at 30%.Over 4 Million Baht will be taxed at 37%.If you earn less than THB150,000, you are exempt from having to pay tax in Thailand. Thailand has progressive tax rates that increase with regard to earnings. As of 2017, this starts at 5% if you earn between THB150,00 and THB300,000, and increases gradually until the highest tax bracket in which you will have to pay 35% if you earn over THB5 million per year.Certain deductions and tax exemptions are allowed when calculating your taxable income, so it is advisable to confer with an accountant in Thailand if you aren't on PAYE with a company and are required to file your own returns. Tax returns also need to be reported in Thai, so this will help you to overcome the language barrier.
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      Aug 09, 2021 at 2:31 pm

      • Eva says

        August 9, 2021 at 4:39 pm

        Thanks a lot Mike. This is very helpful.
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        Aug 09, 2021 at 4:39 pm

        • Mike Bassett says

          August 9, 2021 at 5:33 pm

          Of course if you are a developer requiring many overseas trips and your laptop is your office you do not need to became fiscally resident in thailand unless you spend more than 183 days a year there. If you could arrange your work life balance to only be in thailand for about 6 months a year you might be ok. Can you reclaim usa taxes based on travel to client sites. If so you might have found a nice life style.
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          Aug 09, 2021 at 5:33 pm

        • Mike Bassett says

          August 9, 2021 at 9:17 pm

          You may find the english language version from the thai tax office more authorative.

          https://www.rd.go.th/english/6045.html
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          Aug 09, 2021 at 9:17 pm

      • Bubba says

        August 9, 2021 at 5:55 pm

        Everyone in Thailand does NOT have a Thai tax liability. The best course of action is to deal with an accountant or lawyer and let them guide you.
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        Aug 09, 2021 at 5:55 pm

        • Mike Bassett says

          August 9, 2021 at 7:31 pm

          Hi Bubba, Your comment is well noted and in my experience nobody should take any blogs as definitive. As general advice I would go on to suggest the following is relevant.

          For clarity I am a Brit fiscally resident in France and for the next few years I will live in Thailand without being fiscally resident in Thailand or the UK so it is possible to use the system to ones own advantage by reading source documents. I am not a specialist in international law or USA and Thai legal process. But I read source legal documents when they are important to me.

          I suggest that even if consulting a lawyer, accountant or tax specialist it is important to do independant research from source documents - commonly known as due dilligence. I have over the years had dealings with these experts and because I did my own research I found that for my particular circumstances I was better informed than all of them as my focus was on me. They usually deal in the masses and unless you are a valued high roller they do not usually have time to focus on the special circumstances of a more normal individual.

          For that reason I attached a link to the USA and Thailand dual taxation treaty and I suggest everybody should read the one pertinant to their fixed domicile and their expat country of choice. They take a bit of reading but they are very clear. One might need to use an expert afterwards because, for example, one might not have experience of court procedure. But it is important to know how to guide these experts.

          In due course when I finally become fiscally resident in Thailand I will need a thai tax specialist simply because tax returns have to be submitted in thai script. But I will be prepared.
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          Aug 09, 2021 at 7:31 pm

          • TheThailandLife says

            August 10, 2021 at 5:54 pm

            Absolutely. And if anyone reading this living in Thailand or planning a move over wants professional advice I am happy to put you in touch with my Independent Financial Advisor to help with financial planning. This way you can ensure you stay within the law and make your money/investments work in the most lucrative way possible.
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            Aug 10, 2021 at 5:54 pm

    • Mike Bassett says

      August 9, 2021 at 3:06 pm

      https://www.irs.gov/businesses/international-businesses/thailand-tax-treaty-documents
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      Aug 09, 2021 at 3:06 pm

  6. jb says

    August 2, 2021 at 9:16 am

    so could I, a 32 year old brit, come and live in thailand for, say, £1000 a month? would this be enough for me and a woman?

    if I were to just give that to her and she takes care of everything whilst I learn the ropes would that be enough? of course if she worked too... that would cover some costs I guess... I guess maybe I'm still a bit young? but I don't care, I want to do something big. I read a comment here that said go for a month and see how you get on... but I mean.... it's like jumping into a different world... I don't know anything about thailand... the language etc. if I went on my own how would I know what to do? where to go etc.
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    Aug 02, 2021 at 9:16 am

    • Mike Baker says

      August 2, 2021 at 6:14 pm

      You have a number of hurdles to overcome.

      1. Visa. You want to live here in Thailand but to do so requires a visa. For a 32 year old the options are limited and to live here permanently rather than chancing your luck with, for example, an education visa and help from an agent each year (corruption) will require substantial funds and fees.

      2. You need an income. But you cannot work without a work permit and those are not dished out willy nilly. One job you could consider is teaching English though and the support of a school would get you a visa.

      3. You have no clue about the country and its culture. Yes you should visit for an extended period but not treat it like a holiday. Rather you should choose somewhere to live and try to think like someone who is living here and have a realistic budget. Discover if you like the culture and in villages and many towns, the poverty, the filth, the lack of facilities, the strange food and the inability to communicate

      4. Finding a lady is easy but for all the wrong reasons. Look in the wrong places and you will find excitement and sex and will be expected to part with a lot of money you won't have. A lack of money will, in many cases, result a relationship ending.

      Yes you can live for £1000pm but how much living will depend on your lifestyle requirements.

      Firstly I suggest you watch the hundreds of Youtube videos about thailand and relationships. Read every part of this wide ranging forum and consider if you have the strength of character and the right reasons to try.
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      Aug 02, 2021 at 6:14 pm

      • jb says

        August 7, 2021 at 7:45 am

        hey thanks for the reply mike, appreciate it.

        I own flats here in the UK so I have a source of income this side that I could use to fund myself.

        So, couldn't I just go there and live off of the cash I bring in for myself? or is it more complicated than that? I figure I could get one of those visa's that allow you to stay for 6 months, then I could return to the UK for a bit and then go back, so it wouldn't be permanent, at least not at first.

        I'm still learning of course and this site has helped a lot already. Something I'd like to ask is, I have high blood pressure which I have to take a pill everyday to keep under control, how could I get them in thailand? med insurance?
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        Aug 07, 2021 at 7:45 am

        • TheThailandLife says

          August 8, 2021 at 3:17 am

          Yes, you can live off the money you earn in the UK. You can get a prescription here from a hospital, or if it's a commonly prescribed drug you may be able to source it a local pharmacy. Though probably best to go through a doctor at a hospital and make sure you're getting what you need.
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          Aug 08, 2021 at 3:17 am

          • jb says

            August 8, 2021 at 3:56 am

            funding = check
            med insurance = check
            visa/passport = check
            accomodation = check

            am I missing anything else? I'll bring my own adapter, use vpn and of course brush up on the language, how common is english in thailand? do most of them know it or...?

            so I could come there live off the cash I earn here and they wouldn't want me to work or anything provided I pay all the nesseassry bills/tax etc. I could be like a retiree at 35... just laze around... do nothing.. and enjoy everything.
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            Aug 08, 2021 at 3:56 am

        • Mike Baker says

          August 8, 2021 at 10:39 am

          I started visiting part time and gradually built up the length of stays, until I was sure I wanted to commit to a "retirement" visa. I think your plan to go back and forth is sound. I am not sure what max length of visa you could get each time without committing a lot of funds or costing a lot - I think it would be 60 days.
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          Aug 08, 2021 at 10:39 am

        • Mike Bassett says

          August 9, 2021 at 12:57 am

          That would be just over 43 000 baht at todays rates. We can live a modest but comfortable life on that. Much the same way as when living and working in your home country ie it does not permit a luxury life style.

          The big problem is getting long term visas. I am married to a Thai but if I just give her the money it is not recorded as my money which would prove my ability to support myself. The most difficult part of that is opening a thai bank account and showing that you have a reliable income stream going into it. Many banks rejected me but at the time I was on a standard tourist visa.

          At the moment we are both in France waiting for the Thailand covid situation to improve. I hope to get back in November but to go now when european weather is fine does not seem a smart idea at the because of the very restricted life that you would encounter, on the other hand there are plenty of empty rooms available to rent. Just very few places to spend money. Except for the sun, it is not yet a good time to go especially for someone without previous experience or reliable contacts.
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          Aug 09, 2021 at 12:57 am

          • jay says

            August 9, 2021 at 9:00 am

            thanks for your reply, to be honest I'm thinking a year or two ahead due to covid, blasted virus has ruined everything.

            what a shame £1000 doesn't amount to 1,000,000 baht, we'd all live like kings!

            aha the bank! that's what I forgot about... hmm yeah I've read that can be tricky...

            so I take it you have the marriage visa? is that what it's called?

            wise move to stay in france for now until covid clears up (if it ever does)
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            Aug 09, 2021 at 9:00 am

            • Mike Bassett says

              August 9, 2021 at 3:47 pm

              Not got a marriage visa yet but that was because last year I had not got a bank account set up. Hopefully I am going back in November to set up a bank account and I am sure I can now get a marriage visa before christmas. The way I travelled in the past would suit you and that is to get a 3 month tourist visa. It is only valid for 2 months then you go to the immigration office to get it extended for a third month. Then I pop back to the UK for a month and repeat the process. It would be a good way to get your feet wet without fully committing and for insurance purposes a month back in the UK is a good idea. My wife is covid stuck with me in France at the moment but I did read on the thai embassy web site that it might be able to apply for it from France. So that is my next avenue to research.
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              Aug 09, 2021 at 3:47 pm

            • Mike Bassett says

              August 9, 2021 at 5:13 pm

              By the way if you are planning to make a future in thailand as a relatively young man I would suggest you have time to get some very basic thai language lessons under your belt and read about the culture. You also have time to get an english teaching qualification which is the easiest way to get a job in thailand. Unless you have IT skills or an internet income then you can work from home anywhere in the world. I recommend that if you are planning a stay of years you should arrive as a cheapish charlie until you find your feet to avoid being exploted or scammed, the money you set aside in the first couple of months makes your bank account look healthy and then you can anyway splurge your holiday fund. When we were not in this disaster of a covid I found flights to vietnam for a long weekend were a cheap and easy way to get a 1 month visa extension but flights right now are nearly impossible.
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              Aug 09, 2021 at 5:13 pm

        • Mike Bassett says

          August 9, 2021 at 3:14 pm

          You should read this UK government publication

          https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/thailand-tax-treaties
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          Aug 09, 2021 at 3:14 pm

      • Mark Hoffman says

        August 9, 2021 at 2:41 pm

        I am 62 just retired and have a pension and social security that adds up to 3500 dollars a month is that enough to live good and party I am single I want to live in chonburi or pattaya what kind of life can I have on that
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        Aug 09, 2021 at 2:41 pm

    • Bubba says

      August 2, 2021 at 6:20 pm

      Read some regional news first.. " out of the frying pan and into the fire" as they say. Travel is restricted, shops are closed, entertainment is non- existent, store inventories are depleted..
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      Aug 02, 2021 at 6:20 pm

    • roskruge says

      June 20, 2022 at 9:45 am

      at June '22 - £1000 is 43,110.46 Thai Baht - More than enough . Just short of 10 years on the Australian Pension here, I am averaging 38,502 Baht per month spending, that includes literally everything including, 20,000 Baht month luxury Condo, Fiber Optic Internet, 2 Hospital operations 1 was major 10 days in Hospital, No Medical Insurance, Dentist: 2 Root channel treatment, about 3 crowns. No Lady, No Prostitutes. Drink small amount wine daily. None Smoker.
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      Jun 20, 2022 at 9:45 am

  7. Lilliana says

    June 18, 2021 at 6:51 pm

    Australia is not affordable rents $500 a week if you can get one. Food is high cars and running cost are high eliectrisity is highest in the world. Many on the streets.
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    Jun 18, 2021 at 6:51 pm

    • Mark Hoffman says

      August 9, 2021 at 2:44 pm

      What kind of life can I have on 3500 dollars a month and 50000 in the bank I am 62 I am worried that the doctors are not good enough
      Reply

      Aug 09, 2021 at 2:44 pm

      • Mike Baker says

        August 9, 2021 at 3:59 pm

        You can have a great life for that monthly income and could get a retirement visa easily. Get good medical insurance and you will find the private hospitals are ok. But....if healthcare is your primary worry, stay in the US and travel as a tourist only on travel insurance that can repatriate you to your safe zone.
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        Aug 09, 2021 at 3:59 pm

      • Mike Bassett says

        August 9, 2021 at 4:06 pm

        I would say you could have a good life provided you carry decent medical insurance. 50k baht a month is fine for a modest life style and you exceed that many times over. In my opinion the medics in the thailand international hospitals are very good but very expensive if you are not insured. For general scrapes, cuts and bruises etc the normal doctors and clinics are fine. Unless you are an experienced biker do not rent a motorbike or you will soon enough need medical treatment.
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        Aug 09, 2021 at 4:06 pm

  8. Ryan says

    May 1, 2021 at 10:09 pm

    These figures are pony 😂 I live with my gf in an amazing 40sqm condo with stupid fast witi, 2 pools, gym, sauna, steam room, co working space and even after insurance which costs me 3000b my costs are 28200b per month. Rent: 12,000 food 10,000 elec: 1200 wifi 800 phones 1200 insurance 3000b.
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    May 01, 2021 at 10:09 pm

    • Mike Baker says

      May 2, 2021 at 9:20 pm

      Horses for courses......but no sign of any entertainment/travel in those figures.
      Reply

      May 02, 2021 at 9:20 pm

    • John says

      May 2, 2021 at 11:16 pm

      You don’t say where you are living. Can you advise to enable a comparison.
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      May 02, 2021 at 11:16 pm

    • Mike styring says

      May 27, 2021 at 3:56 am

      Hey how much is that in American dollars I'm a disabled Army vet wanting to move to Thailand I make 1680 something on disability would that be enough to live in Thailand any knowledge or anything you could tell me would help
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      May 27, 2021 at 3:56 am

      • Ken says

        May 27, 2021 at 5:32 am

        Yes, you could live a modest-comfortable lifestyle on $1680, however you would be required to meet the financial requirements if obtaining a long term visa and over 50 years old. Currently 800,000 baht initially or 65,000 baht per month deposited in a Thai bank. Apply in US and you can maintain a US Bank deposit. There are some variations permitted and limited periods of withdrawals permitted. In addition, if obtaining in US you would be required to maintain health insurance. Acquiring insurance over 65 is possible, but more expensive. Most companies require physicals at 65 and pre-existing issues are not covered. Check the Thai Embassy website for more information. Everyone visa experience may be different.
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        May 27, 2021 at 5:32 am

      • Mike Baker says

        May 27, 2021 at 12:31 pm

        Mike you are looking at 50k baht per month in income......that is enough to live here but it comes with lots of caveats.........you need to consider how your disability may affect your way of life as Thailand is not a modern disability friendly country. I think a wheelchair bound person will not have an easy time for example........you will need to consider your visa status as to get a retirement visa you need funds in the bank to the tune of 800k baht or about $26k, as your income is below the threshold for a monthly transfer income visa...... or you will have to employ an agent costing 15-30k baht per annum to circumvent the rules and risk this avenue ceasing one day when they apply the law properly. Your income will dictate your lifestyle so read all the comments in this blog for information to help you decide........as usual I would suggest you come here on a 3 month visa and see how it goes. You can use that 3 months to plan how to stay longer next time.
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        May 27, 2021 at 12:31 pm

        • Mike Bassett says

          May 27, 2021 at 5:35 pm

          How much money do you need - like everywhere it depends upon your anticipated lifestyle. But if you have children then private schools and tutors in thailand are expensive and so is private medical care. But if you take my lifestyle as a retired Englishman who lives a normal non-special life wherever I am and with a thai wife then it is still relatively inexpensive, remember few normal thais earn more than 30,000 baht per month and can still support children and rent basic accomodation. Currently we vacation near Pattaya and I give my wife 40,000 baht per month to look after our basic living needs including a little pocket money for herself. This pays for a large studio apartment with a kitchen, shared swimming pool, electricity and water. Local food is inexpensive as is home cooking and this comes out of her allowance. But I pay for extra holidays and special treats. When we stay at our own house in thailand we save a lot. Clearly I am not a playboy so I do not chase bar girls and when I take her family out it normally costs me 1,000 baht for half a dozen people. Mostly I do not buy designer clothes but live in clothes I bring from europe boosted by tee shirts and shorts from Thailand, I do not need posh clothes and expensive shoes for daily thai life, they would soon be ruined and are uncomfortable. I live in thailand half the year and europe the other half which keeps me out of the thai tax system, I have most of my medical needs settled free in europe and keep a wardrobe in thailand and one in europe to make travel easy. This gives us ample opportunity to bring the luxuries we need like tea, italian coffee, cosmetics, replacement clothes etc for 6 months. It is a good lifestyle because flights cost the same as the european heating bills I save. But I need europe too, I can only manage the lazy lifestyle for 6 months then I need a blast of european culture (I own a house in France) and nice breezy cool summer weather for a sanity check. If I had 10 times my pensions I suspect my lifestyle would not change. As a final thought - I gave up car ownership 5 years ago, I lease a car for 3-5 months in europe so I save on depreciation, insurance, tax and parking. In thailand we have a scooter and take motorbike taxis and limos when needed, I would never own a car in thailand. I make sure I always have travel insurance to get me back to europe and I have a married mans visa therefore I do not need to keep large amounts of money tied up in thailand as might be the case for a permanent retiree. A final thought - it is all down to being organised rather than a free and easy lifestyle which can end up costing much more.
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          May 27, 2021 at 5:35 pm

    • John says

      January 30, 2023 at 9:59 pm

      Hi what area are you living in ?
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      Jan 30, 2023 at 9:59 pm

  9. John says

    February 8, 2021 at 8:01 pm

    I am in my early sixties and single. I spent sometime in Thailand during 2016 and was thinking of moving. Things changed and I have stayed in the UK. I am now single and am considering moving to Thailand again. My time was spent mostly in Hua Hin and its here that I think I would like to move to. Initially, I will rent, probably a two bed condo/villa with the idea of buying, if all goes well, in the future.
    Hopefully, my monthly investments/pension will be circa 110,000 baht with funds available to purchase a property at a later date.
    Has anyone got any experience living in Hua Hin full time? Will my monthly amount be sufficient (I do enjoy socialising) and am I making the right decision in thinking Hua Hin is the best place? I have seen so many different suggestions of places to live, I must admit, I have got somewhat confused. Many thanks in advance.
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    Feb 08, 2021 at 8:01 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      February 8, 2021 at 9:22 pm

      You will have enough money to live. As for Hua Hin...I'd recommend trying it out for a few months and see how you feel. Some find it too quiet. The town is quite small and everything else is quite spaced out, so you need transport. Others enjoy the early nights, coastal areas and golf options. It depends what you are looking for. I always think it's best not to commit early on and keep your options open.
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      Feb 08, 2021 at 9:22 pm

    • Mike Baker says

      February 8, 2021 at 10:05 pm

      John, you are a similar age to me and started visiting Thailand at the same time. I don't have direct experience of Hua Hin but I do have some experience of living here full time and some opinions on it........ Firstly 100k+ baht is easily enough to live on anywhere with a good social life. You can look online for rental properties in your area of choice and add another 3k baht for water and electric per month. You will find living expenses are not very much but of course what you spend your money on is very much a personal choice and without some idea of this no one will be able to give an accurate opinion of your budget.......one thing I would urge you to think very carefully about is buying property. Firstly there is a rule that foreigners cannot own land and this means you can own a condo (because you don't own any land) or, with regards to houses, often they are leasehold, so again you do not own the land. With houses, the leases are, I understand, originally only 30 years.... and so can be very short on resale.... with an inherent risk of the lease not being renewed or being costly to renew..... and there is another risk I have recently been made aware of..... that the freeholder could take out a loan from a bank secured on the land.... not repay it... and the bank could reposess the land..... etc etc..... because Thai land law and bank procedures are VERY different to the UK...... secondly, you are in your 60s.... is there any point to owning your own house and committing all that money...... property ownership throws up various questions to me... rental costs are so cheap you can be better off renting (it normally takes about 20+ years to pay in rent what you paid for the property and overheads); one can move to a different area very easily if needing a change or to get away from troublesome neighbours; you don't tie up millions of baht you could use for your lifestyle; you don't fall foul of language and laws you don't understand; you have less risk of being ripped off; you will have less worry about how any heirs deal with matters if all they have to sort out is a bank account and a car; you may have overheads with property ownership like monthly maintenance charges for the communal garden/pool/security/cleaning that can be relatively substantial and are often based on sq metres of the property.............I would suggeat you will need a car and should think about that as an important expenditure shortly after arrival. Costs will vary depending on preference as to new/used and size but if you went for a new Toyota Yaris sort of size that would cost about £14k with a new Toyota Fortuner SUV sort of size being about £40k...... keep an open mind about location and try different places...... once you have lived somewhere for a few months you will know if it suits you enough to settle....... last opinion...... start small, spend modestly in renting and socialising..... get a feel for it.... don't attract the attention of gold diggers..... keep your financial situation private.
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      Feb 08, 2021 at 10:05 pm

      • John says

        February 8, 2021 at 10:55 pm

        Hi Mike

        Thank you for you in depth reply, much appreciated. Your angle on buying is one I hadn't considered. I suppose always owning in the UK its natural to think of this as the way forward. I am aware of the situation with houses and leasehold but hadn't considered your comments regarding the freeholder, that certainly puts a different spin on things.
        As regards the location, I think I want a coastal one and by all accounts Hua Hin seems to be one of the most recommended. As I mentioned, I spent about three months there in 2016 but stayed in a hotel during that time not a condo.
        Peter commented that the town is quite small and although I know there are some fantastic golf courses, I am not yet a golfer.
        As a matter of interest, if you don't mine saying, where have you settled?
        Again, thanks for your comments, I have taken on board your last one.
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        Feb 08, 2021 at 10:55 pm

        • TheThailandLife says

          February 8, 2021 at 11:17 pm

          There's some additional information on buying property, including leasehold and freehold, here: https://www.thethailandlife.com/buying-property-thailand
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          Feb 08, 2021 at 11:17 pm

          • John says

            February 8, 2021 at 11:39 pm

            Thank you Peter for some very forthright information. A recommended read for anyone looking at buying property. Its all taken on board. I think its the rental route for me.
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            Feb 08, 2021 at 11:39 pm

          • Mike Baker says

            February 8, 2021 at 11:56 pm

            Blimey....just read your property buying blog..... Almost word for word what I have been saying...... I didn't copy honest!
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            Feb 08, 2021 at 11:56 pm

            • TheThailandLife says

              February 9, 2021 at 12:06 am

              Ha. Having been around the block I'm not surprised you're singing from the same hymn book :)
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              Feb 09, 2021 at 12:06 am

        • Mike Baker says

          February 8, 2021 at 11:37 pm

          I spent 1 year in Pattaya in 2017, in a relationship but found Pattaya to be unsuitable at that time due to my inexperience and a very jealous gf (most are of course)...... we then went to Kalasin, Isaan and I spent 2.5years in her small village but in a really good UK style bungalow....... then for the last 7 months have been back in Pattaya having ended the relationship mainly due to the isolation and boredom of village life....... Pattaya has a lot to offer in the way of UK style food, entertainment (live music, golf, sports clubs, dance clubs, bridge clubs etc.), Western food and people to befriend..... it has a reputation but doesn't need to be like that.......My 4.5 years experience has helped me decide and find what I want and decide what I don't want..... but like many who have a relationship it has cost me a fair amount..... and that leads me to the oft repeated saying.... "never spend what you cannot afford to lose immediately".
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          Feb 08, 2021 at 11:37 pm

          • John says

            February 9, 2021 at 12:16 am

            I have a Australian friend who has an apartment in Pattaya and says he wouldn't live anywhere else. I have only visited once and that was just overnight. Are the stories one reads of it being the red light district of Thailand are exaggerated? I understand that walking street is even more lively than Soi Cowboy and Nana in BKK, both of those I have been to.
            I would be interested to hear from someone who lives there and their perspective. Peters comment that Hua Hin is a small town is very true and I wonder if boredom might set in very quickly.
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            Feb 09, 2021 at 12:16 am

            • Mike Baker says

              February 9, 2021 at 8:37 am

              I would say Pattaya has it all with some streets being just there for carnal pleasures, not places to go for a quiet drink and relaxing chat. But there is plenty else to do that doesn't involve ladies and many people have a favorite bar, restaurant or coffee shop to visit with friends daytime and evening time, if they are not involved in some sort of sporting activity or watching a film at home. You may have to learn to ignore people who think ill of you because of where you live and get on with your life!
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              Feb 09, 2021 at 8:37 am

              • John says

                February 9, 2021 at 10:53 pm

                Thanks Mike, can you give an indication of the areas where, in your opinion, are good to live?
                I am thinking away from the madding crowds but still in a social area.
                Many thanks
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                Feb 09, 2021 at 10:53 pm

                • Mike Baker says

                  February 10, 2021 at 9:33 am

                  Jomtien is quieter than central Pattaya but has a nice beach and night life. Phratumnak is mainly condo developments with a few bars etc but is very hilly and often a fair walk to the baht buses. Na Klua (also spelt Nakluea) is quieter but very quick to get into Pattaya by baht bus and the Wongamat beach area is higher class and more expensive due to the lovely beach and coastline. If money is not so much an issue, renting in Wongamat area for a period may be something to consider. Some condos have fantastic views but of course they attract a premium. Getting into town would involve a short walk of up to1km or motorbike then a bus for 5 minutes. Wherever you try, I suggest renting month to month to start.... then changing places is easy.
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                  Feb 10, 2021 at 9:33 am

    • JamesE says

      February 9, 2021 at 6:56 am

      Hua Hin would be like living in any other resort destination. People mostly go there for holidays so it will go from boom to bust in terms of access to everything from your favorite restaurants to the ease of moving about town. The biggest upside is that Hua Hin is the easiest place to be (that I've found so far) in terms of language. Everybody from market vendors to laundry workers to the people working in stores spoke good English. Peter's right about checking out different places. Domestic travel is very inexpensive in Thailand and you could easily set up camp in Bangkok and fly out for multi-week visits all over the country to get a feel for the different regions.
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      Feb 09, 2021 at 6:56 am

  10. Denise says

    January 19, 2021 at 1:06 pm

    Thanks for this article! Such a big help for people who wanted to have some info of living in Thailand. I got a job offer there (currently I am in Dubai), and considering to accept it. I will be bringing my husband and 2 y/o daughter with me. Can you share what is the visa being used by your wife, is she working? We are holders of Philippine Passport.

    Which area are you living, can you give me details on how many bedrooms and average cost of your apartment?

    Thanks in advance! :)
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    Jan 19, 2021 at 1:06 pm

  11. Mike Bassett says

    October 26, 2020 at 7:17 am

    I think your analysis is fair. I have been travelling to thailand for 30 years and it is far more expensive now than before. In preparation for retirement I have a thai house to sell and will buy another (I have a thai wife) and I was quite shocked at the prices now. I had been thinking about selling up in europe but the differentials are not as clear as they once were. So its back to the old plan of winters in thailand and summers in europe. Airfares cost the same as my winter heating bill. Then I get good weather all the time but keep the cultural activities that thailand lacks. Having said that the average thai can live on about 20,000baht per month but could never afford a private education or a new car - but taxis are inexpensive compared to europe. I do notice that vietnam is cheaper than thailand and is more culturally aligned with europe eg classical music etc. Airfares between bangkok and saigon are pretty cheap so you can have your cake and eat it. Cambodia is very cheap if you want to live like a cambodian but has none of the benefits of thailand or vietnam.
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    Oct 26, 2020 at 7:17 am

  12. Mike says

    August 22, 2020 at 4:01 pm

    Do you pay taxes there in Thailand as ex-pats ?
    Reply

    Aug 22, 2020 at 4:01 pm

    • Bubba says

      August 22, 2020 at 6:59 pm

      I am a United States citizen. Legally I am liable to pay taxes to the United States no matter where I live in the world. That being said, as a non-immigrant resident, I also must adhere to the Thai taxation regulations. If you are unsure of whether or not you need to pay taxes, you will need to consult a professional for advice.
      Reply

      Aug 22, 2020 at 6:59 pm

    • James E says

      August 22, 2020 at 10:20 pm

      Check out: https://www.thethailandlife.com/income-tax-thailand
      Reply

      Aug 22, 2020 at 10:20 pm

  13. Bee says

    August 10, 2020 at 5:58 pm

    No way!! I am the local people. Thailand is a lot more expensive than Laos, Malaysia and Vietnam. This statement is totally bull (bad word removed).
    Reply

    Aug 10, 2020 at 5:58 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      August 10, 2020 at 6:17 pm

      At the time of writing I checked the data of Numbeo and this was true. But now overall you are correct, Thailand is more expensive than Malaysia and Cambodia. However, I'm correct on Laos, which is still more expensive overall. See here: https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries_result.jsp?country1=Thailand&country2=LaosI didn't mention Vietnam.The thing is, it's a general statement that will vary from region to region and city to city. I have amended it to reflect that.
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      Aug 10, 2020 at 6:17 pm

      • Thomas N. says

        August 19, 2020 at 7:32 am

        I am Lao but living in Thailand. Whenever I travel to Laos, I find that food items is generally more expensive than in Thailand.
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        Aug 19, 2020 at 7:32 am

    • Audrey says

      January 17, 2021 at 7:35 am

      I have a question, can you live on 14,200 thb per month in Bangkok, Thailand?
      Reply

      Jan 17, 2021 at 7:35 am

      • Bubba says

        January 17, 2021 at 9:49 pm

        It depends on what you are willing to give up. I doubt that you can pull it off in Bangkok or Chiang Mai. What nationality are you?
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        Jan 17, 2021 at 9:49 pm

      • Gary Farmer says

        January 17, 2021 at 10:37 pm

        I'm sure you will get a variety of replies but personally I would say you will struggle and have to sacrifice alot but it is possible. I have friends who rent a very basic room with shower/ toilet and small balcony near Min Buri district of the city for 4500baht a month so you would have 10k for travel, food, electric, water, socialising and clothes and anything else you might need . The utility Bill's total around maybe 1000baht so 9k left but the BTS train fares are going up so your daily travel could be your biggest expense after room rental. I want to be positive and say yes you can do it but you will really have to struggle every month in my opinion. I lived in Nana a year before moving up North as monthly costs were just too much with rent alone being 24k although current rental prices have dropped.Good luck if you decide to do it as this is a beautiful Country well worth living in despite the trouble and obstacles t throws up sometimes .
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        Jan 17, 2021 at 10:37 pm

      • JamesE says

        January 17, 2021 at 11:45 pm

        That's the equivalent of US$475. You would be hard-pressed to get by on that. But many Thais who work at low-earning jobs do. You would need to be willing to share accommodations, forego air conditioning, exchange riding the BTS for taking the cheap bus, etc. Wouldn't be much fun.
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        Jan 17, 2021 at 11:45 pm

      • Mike Baker says

        January 18, 2021 at 11:58 am

        Survive yes..... live a life worth living no.
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        Jan 18, 2021 at 11:58 am

  14. Scott says

    August 10, 2020 at 9:09 am

    Thanks much for all the work you've put into your site - very helpful information throughout. We (a couple) are considering short-term retiring in Thailand for 2-3 years then moving back to the US to finish out nearer family. Depending on how we choose to use savings and income funds for the next thirty years, we can fund a minimum of 100,000 Baht (closer to 120,000 Baht) monthly. In addition, except for basic doctor visit and/or procedure copays, our health care plan is already paid by our company and the plan has existing contracts with many hospitals throughout Thailand. General thoughts about lifestyle with this budget range? If we decide to give it a try, we'll be visiting next year to get a feel for different areas and determining whether honest real estate assistance exists to find long-term rental with landlord who will not gouge on utilities or attempt to extort varied fees. Sometimes tough being .... farangs paying higher pricing for goods and/or services. :-)
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    Aug 10, 2020 at 9:09 am

    • James E says

      August 10, 2020 at 9:50 pm

      That much money is not going to be an issue. Considering you can get a very nice apartment in central Bangkok or the popular islands for around US$800-1,000/month (and even less outside of the BTS line or in the country) you'll really have a hard time spending that much money unless you're out on the town every night. A couple of things to note. First: learn to speak and read Thai. Right now it'll be a year (at least) before you'll be able to travel to Thailand. Use that time to learn Thai. Once you get even a beginner level of ability the whole farang-pricing thing goes away. Plus, you'll have a much better experience. Second, read through some of Max's posts in the visa threads. There is a way to get a retirement visa that does not involve either police/medical checks nor the health insurance requirement. Lastly, everything - everything - in Thailand is based on relationships. Moving to Thailand is no exception. Plan on picking an area, getting a short-term rental and just spend time on the streets, in the markets, and at local restaurants. In a month or so everybody will know you and doors will open. That will also give you time to learn the Thai way of interacting. This is tough for Americans (Read TTL's How to Open a Bank Account Thread) as it is almost the polar opposite of what we're used to.
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      Aug 10, 2020 at 9:50 pm

      • Scott says

        August 11, 2020 at 6:49 am

        Thanks very much ..... this is so helpful. We'll figure out Rosetta or some other method and start learning! Will review the other posts you referenced as well. Again, thanks for your time.
        Reply

        Aug 11, 2020 at 6:49 am

        • TheThailandLife says

          August 11, 2020 at 4:16 pm

          Have a look at this program: https://www.thethailandlife.com/thaipod101-review
          Reply

          Aug 11, 2020 at 4:16 pm

          • James E says

            August 11, 2020 at 10:06 pm

            ThaiPod 101 is good (I subscribe to the Premium Plus level) but it's also helpful to work with a real teacher on video - none of the online courses can give you the feedback you'll need for pronunciation. If you want some references ask TTL to send me your email and I'll send you two that I or friends have worked with.
            Reply

            Aug 11, 2020 at 10:06 pm

            • Scott says

              August 12, 2020 at 7:05 am

              I'm good if TTL shares my email with you ..... I'll check out the 101. Thanks
              Reply

              Aug 12, 2020 at 7:05 am

          • Scott says

            August 12, 2020 at 7:03 am

            Will do!
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            Aug 12, 2020 at 7:03 am

    • Mike Baker says

      August 11, 2020 at 5:32 pm

      I agree with James......the visa to which I think he refers is an extension based on retirement from an original 90 day O visa...... you have to have 800k baht in a bank each (seperate accounts) for at least 60 days before application for the extension but there is no health cover requirement or medical certs or police check...... and in your last year you can spend this money if you know you are leaving.
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      Aug 11, 2020 at 5:32 pm

  15. Scott Miller says

    July 17, 2020 at 7:27 am

    I'm moving to Nong Khai with my Thai wife and planning to purchase land and build a home. How might cost of living there compare with Bangkok or Chiang Mai? What is the best way to find a reputable builder, and how much should I expect to pay for land? Thanks!
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    Jul 17, 2020 at 7:27 am

    • James E says

      July 18, 2020 at 11:15 pm

      The short answer to all of your questions is: It depends. Cost of living is directly dependent on how much living you want to do. But for the same lifestyle it will be cheaper than in a big city. The cost of land is directly dependent on location and size of the property. Thailand is a legal quagmire when it comes to property law so you'll have to make sure the person selling you the property is actually the legal owner. Read some of the comments in TTL's buying property post (https://www.thethailandlife.com/buying-property-thailand). It can be a nightmare. Building is, ummm... *interesting* in Thailand. My Thai MIL was a serial home builder over the past 40 years or so (she swears she's not going to build another). It takes forever to build a house. The building crew might set up camp on your property and live there for the 2, 3, or 4 years it takes to build a house. If your wife isn't a local you'll have to spend some time setting up relationships with architects and contractors since you and they will be unknown quantities to each other. And everything in Thailand is about relationship. If she and her family is local then they are the way to get all your skids greased. It will be an interesting adventure for sure.
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      Jul 18, 2020 at 11:15 pm

      • Scott Miller says

        August 9, 2020 at 3:29 am

        Thank you. Yes, my wife is a local from Nong Khai, and her family is well respected. Sounds like that should help! Thanks for the straight-talk. Much appreciated.
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        Aug 09, 2020 at 3:29 am

  16. Mike Baker says

    June 25, 2020 at 12:42 pm

    I have a very specific question relating to long term rentals please....... I see adverts where the unit price for electric and water varies from 5 baht to 9 baht a unit for electricity and for water 25 baht to 50 baht, often with minimum charges for water and even occasionally for electric...... deep from my memory I recall the law was changed in the last couple of years to prevent tariff loading. Can you confirm the law on this matter and the specific regulation?
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    Jun 25, 2020 at 12:42 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      June 25, 2020 at 3:57 pm

      You are correct. The law is very clear that you can't charge outside of the set government tariffs. However, landlords can charge a maintenance fee often hike this up to make a bit extra. Billing should be transparent and the maintenance charge itemized.Note that costs rise the more you use. These are the 2019 fees: https://www.boi.go.th/index.php?page=utility_costs
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      Jun 25, 2020 at 3:57 pm

      • Mike Baker says

        June 25, 2020 at 8:44 pm

        Thanks for that info......Its a mind boggling set of tariffs, complicated by the usage bands..... no wonder landlords don't charge the correct amounts.... how could they work it out unless each unit is metered from the main supply (as opposed to metered from the building's meter)?..... it seems 5 baht a unit for electric is reasonable but any more is questionable.... and water at 25 baht a unit is over double the govt rate...... but... what do you do? I would imagine the landlord would shrug and say if you don't like it then move..... and if you got "the law" involved, you would be given notice or hounded out or worse..... for new rentals I guess your negotiating skills will need to be very good!
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        Jun 25, 2020 at 8:44 pm

        • Mike Baker says

          August 9, 2020 at 10:10 am

          As an update - I found out if 6 apartments I viewed only 1 honest landlord. He charges 5 baht per unit electric and 35 baht m³ water. Both are on meters. He charges more on water because he has to pump it to the roof for storage and the excess also covers the communal lighting and cleaning...... I have found that Thai nationals also suffer great injustice in this area. Electric at 9 baht a unit, no meter, no evidence of useage. Some landlords I spoke to wanted 9 baht a unit and a fixed fee of 400 baht per month for water! I reckon thats probably 5 times what a single person could expect to pay if the tariff was metered at 35 baht a unit....... it seems the law is ignored widely, not enforced and many people wont complain..... because that is the Thai way....they dont want to lose face.
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          Aug 09, 2020 at 10:10 am

          • TheThailandLife says

            August 9, 2020 at 3:02 pm

            Surely the communal lighting and cleaning are costs he should absorb as part of running the business. Maybe I'm wrong; I've never been a landlord. Water is indeed fixed in many places at around the same price. One argument for that is being able to use as much as you want. It really is just another law that is seldom adhered to or enforced. Problem is, it is up to Thais to stand up to this, as I very much doubt the law will be enforced based on a handful of "foreigners" complaining. I completely agree though: while it is inexpensive, it is the principle of the matter. It is overcharging, against the law, and ignoring such behaviour lends itself to a culture of the same in other areas of society.
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            Aug 09, 2020 at 3:02 pm

            • Bubba says

              August 10, 2020 at 5:47 am

              Having been a landlord and owned multiple units I preferred a net/net/net lease with my renters, where the tenants paid their deposits and monthly or annual bills on the utilities and property taxes. The rent only covered my return, depreciation and mortgage costs. I never had to argue with my renters!
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              Aug 10, 2020 at 5:47 am

              • TheThailandLife says

                August 10, 2020 at 4:27 pm

                I guess it pays to be fair and keep tenants happy. That way you attract long term tenancies.
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                Aug 10, 2020 at 4:27 pm

          • dan Sunsouang says

            May 3, 2021 at 7:04 am

            DONT LET ANYONE CHARGE YOU 5 Bath for elec. etc. THE LAW IS they cannot charge you more then the Gov...Charge. I have been Living in Hua Hin for 16 Years.. Great place .By the sea. only 200 kilo... from BKK.etc. write if you want to talk .ok Dan S.
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            May 03, 2021 at 7:04 am

            • Mike Baker says

              May 3, 2021 at 8:29 pm

              Dan the only way to not allow a landlord to charge you excessive fees for electric and water is not to rent from him.

              Try involving the law and see what happens. Your life will become very unpleasant and likely as not you will have your services cut off and lose your deposit. Then you will find your lock changed and your belongings held to ransom. Call the police and they will be in the pocket of the landlord already.

              Thailand has very good laws across a wide range of subjects, comparable to developed western nations. The problem here is the laws are poorly enforced and easily corrupted. One has to understand this and work with it.
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              May 03, 2021 at 8:29 pm

            • John says

              May 3, 2021 at 9:09 pm

              Hi Dan

              I hope to move to Hua Hin later this year. Spent time there a few years ago and really like the area. As a 16 year resident any hints a tips i should be aware of? I was originally looking at renting a condo but have decided to go for a pool villa instead but am not too sure of the best place to look? I think, from recollection, the centre used to be around the police station and Father Teds but understand its now moved?
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              May 03, 2021 at 9:09 pm

  17. Alex says

    June 24, 2020 at 10:22 am

    Hi Peter, I am 67, retired and single and considering moving to and renting in the Prachuab Kiri Khan area next year at age 68. I have a modest monthly pension of around €1,100.00 euro which is inflation-indexed linked and I have life savings of approximately €350,000.00 (three hundred and fifty thousand euro) Question: With a life expectancy of ten more years, would this be sufficient income and financial security to retire in Thailand with the exclusion of health insurance? I like to eat well, don't smoke but enjoy a few beers and the occasional game of Golf.
    Would appreciate your opinion, many thanks. A.
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    Jun 24, 2020 at 10:22 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      June 24, 2020 at 5:01 pm

      Hi Alex, yes, it would be enough but it depends on a number of factors such as the level of accommodation you want. You could pay 200 Euros a month for a 1 bed apartment, or 600 for a lavish 2 bed, or just 20,000 for a 2-3 bed house in Prachuab Kiri Khan. It depends on the complex and location. On an average month, 1,100 Euro will be enough, but you may find yourself dipping into savings if you take a trip somewhere, fly back home, splash out on golf, extra nights out at good restaurants, etc.
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      Jun 24, 2020 at 5:01 pm

      • Alex says

        July 1, 2020 at 7:24 am

        Thank you for your reply Peter, I would consider dipping into my cash reserves to the tune of approximately €12,000 per year. Adding my pension to this figure would provide an approximate total of - €25,200 per annum, or roughly = B882,000 Baht or B73,500 Baht per month. I have eyed a modern 2-bed house rental in Prachuab for €13,000 Baht p/month leaving an approximate nett disposable figure of B60,500 Baht per month after rent. (but excluding electricity & water charges)
        So assuming I dip into my savings/cash reserves as above for ten years, that would come to €120,000 Euro, give or take, leaving a balance of approximately - €230,000 euro from my original savings.
        Do you think I would be sufficiently secure based on the above figures and reserves? Given my age, I have decided not to seek any illness/health insurance cover and have instead decided to put away €50,000 to €60,000 euro - (between 1.75 to 2.1 million baht) for any unforeseen health issues or eventualities which could or might occur. Your opinion on the above would be most appreciated. ps, I forgot to mention, I may also purchase a vehicle and or scooter.
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        Jul 01, 2020 at 7:24 am

        • Mike Baker says

          July 1, 2020 at 6:18 pm

          Gosh Alex, really affordability is very much for you to decide based on your current and desired lifestyle...... no one but you knows what this is...... you have what some would say were substantial savings to supplement an income that alone should enable a comfortable but not lavish lifestyle..... the question is how much do you want to spend on good meals out, golf, alcohol and inevitably women? I know of someone who spends €100 a meal at Michelin starred places and others who consider a good meal to be €15 here. Cars are anything from €2k for 2nd hand old ones to minimum €17k for a new small hatchback, to €100k + for an imported European vehicle and of course the running costs will vary between different vehicles......... how often will you wish to go back to your own country?.....some go back 6 monthly, some annually, some 3 yearly or even less often.....not sure about budgeting for 10 years though.... you could easily live another 20 or more..... I suggest you come here on a 3 month visa as a tourist and do research in that period to satisfy yourself a permanent move is the right thing for you and that the cost of your desired lifestyle is affordable...... I, for example, started coming here 4 years ago for 2 weeks at a time, then a month at a time for a year or so, then 2 months at a time, then 3 months at a time and now hope to get a retirement visa..... easing myself in gradually gave me the background knowledge to commit to longer periods every 6-9 months.
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          Jul 01, 2020 at 6:18 pm

          • Alexander says

            July 28, 2020 at 9:13 pm

            Hi Peter, I don't intend to live a lavish lifestyle or purchase a BMW or Mercedes, my accommodation rental in Prachuab Kiri Khan will be 14 to15,000 baht per month approximately, inc utilities, I have lived in Thailand previously, and I won't be returning to my country of origin, but thanks anyway :-)
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            Jul 28, 2020 at 9:13 pm

  18. Matteo Convertino says

    May 30, 2020 at 2:31 pm

    Hello, this is a great article. Thanks a lot!
    So ... a university in Bangkok offered me 60,000 THB/month ...... I have a family of 3, wife and 1 young son...
    Based on what you say I do not think the salary is enough... or barely enough considering also travels to Europe and Asia...
    Let me know
    thanks!
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    May 30, 2020 at 2:31 pm

  19. Boy Wykkyd says

    May 17, 2020 at 11:59 pm

    Hey, so I’m looking to move to move to Thailand and work there in 2 years. I’ll be 25 then and I’ll have about 16000 usd. Would I be able to afford it?
    Reply

    May 17, 2020 at 11:59 pm

    • James E says

      May 18, 2020 at 3:21 am

      So, $16K in addition to what you'll be making working? $16K until you get a job? A lot depends on your job plan, where in Thailand you'll be living, and what kind of lifestyle you want to support. $2K/mo would give you a nice apartment and enough to get by in Bangkok if you're pretty frugal. Up country it'll be cheaper, down in the islands maybe a bit pricier.
      Reply

      May 18, 2020 at 3:21 am

    • Bubba says

      May 18, 2020 at 7:56 am

      Don't forget to determine what your visa eligibility is before you make your plans. At your age you will likely be ineligible for a retirement visa. Will you be obtaining a work permit? Or are you obtaining a spouse visa?
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      May 18, 2020 at 7:56 am

  20. Bubba says

    April 22, 2020 at 8:54 pm

    Let's mention the drought in Norhern Thailand as this doesn't seem to be being brought up. Thailand is currently undergoing one of the worst droughts in decades. I am currently in the Lampang area and there is NO water from 9 PM until 11 AM. At a 11 AM until 3 PM there is a mad dash to fill any available water jugs for later use, i.e. washing the dust from the floors, washing vegtables and taking a splash bath, as there is not enough water pressure to shower with. If you are coming to Thailand to live an idyllic life, you might want to think of Thailand more as camping in the rough. Your costs for water will soar and your hygiene will suffer if you hate to be fresh and clean all of the time. Check any Thai news website and you will see the same situation from Chang Mai to Bangkok.
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    Apr 22, 2020 at 8:54 pm

  21. Mitch says

    April 21, 2020 at 8:00 pm

    Thanks for the post as my wife and I are thinking of retiring in East Pattaya. Are there european ex pat couples in that area? We are 57 and will visit again in December and scope things out with a view to moving in February 2021
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    Apr 21, 2020 at 8:00 pm

  22. Massimo Lanfranchi says

    April 14, 2020 at 2:19 am

    Thank you for your great post,I am single 62 I am Italian, just retired from USA with $1100 per month social security.
    I have been thinking to move to Thailand, are would You suggest I try don’t want to live yo cheap but also the $1100 is all I have .
    Some suggestion? Thank you in advance
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    Apr 14, 2020 at 2:19 am

    • James E says

      April 14, 2020 at 3:36 am

      $1,100 is going to be tough in Bangkok or the islands. Isan or the north would be cheaper but still you'd be at the bottom end of housing and being able to travel around. Depends on your lifestyle and what you're after in retirement. There are cheaper places that are more expat friendly in terms of visas and costs than Thailand. If the income is your limiting factor look at some other countries.
      Reply

      Apr 14, 2020 at 3:36 am

  23. Hils says

    April 11, 2020 at 6:05 pm

    Can you have small dogs in rental condo’s?
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    Apr 11, 2020 at 6:05 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      April 11, 2020 at 6:13 pm

      In some you can, but most don't allow this. You'd need to find a pet friendly condo.
      Reply

      Apr 11, 2020 at 6:13 pm

  24. anton manwaring says

    March 18, 2020 at 1:45 pm

    hi i'm 77 and been here 14 years haven't had one increase in pension since i came now the GB gov has cut 200 quid a month i'm down to 800 a month. Luckily i don't smoke or drink just the occasional beer but now the Thais are increasing prices to compensate for the coronavirus - just plain greed. I live in cha-am Hua Hin area and its dead but they still want top dollar for everything. I and my wife live on 20,000 bt per month but it varies as to what we do. We go out a lot but now we will have to stop I suppose... but yeah overall it's cheaper than home where a pint is 4.50
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    Mar 18, 2020 at 1:45 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      March 19, 2020 at 7:34 pm

      I guess the price rises were inevitable, as businesses are not likely to get state help for rent - so it is either raise prices or go out of business. Most of the world is suffering now. At least you have £800 guaranteed - thousands of businesses in the UK are going under and people losing their jobs. These people face losing their homes.
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      Mar 19, 2020 at 7:34 pm

  25. Brent says

    March 13, 2020 at 2:49 pm

    This is all great and all but what people are asking and your all most there. You have all the prices there on what everything cost but what we are asking is right next to where you show Thai price put it also in American dollars so WE can visualize and comprehend the prices and see how it rates to USD.
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    Mar 13, 2020 at 2:49 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      March 13, 2020 at 5:31 pm

      Hi Brent, that is what the currency convertor is for. The exchange rate changes every day, so I put the currency convertor in the post for you to get the most accurate exchange.
      Reply

      Mar 13, 2020 at 5:31 pm

      • Lee says

        May 13, 2020 at 2:50 pm

        Haha well said
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        May 13, 2020 at 2:50 pm

  26. Neal says

    February 24, 2020 at 5:38 pm

    Ok So About Private schools being expensive. I used to study in a pretty cheap International School whcih has much better education then other school with a larger fees(aghh my english lol) The School name was International Pioneers School. I think since u are living in the more central part of bangkok thats why u think its expensive.
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    Feb 24, 2020 at 5:38 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      February 24, 2020 at 5:41 pm

      I probably would have fallen for that if your email address didn't have the school's name in it! For blog spamming, always use a different email address.
      Reply

      Feb 24, 2020 at 5:41 pm

      • James E says

        February 24, 2020 at 11:46 pm

        lol
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        Feb 24, 2020 at 11:46 pm

  27. Charlie says

    December 31, 2019 at 11:44 am

    Cool post, lots of good info. I’ll be 66 next year and looking to move to the land of smiles. Can a single guy live in Krabi in a large one bedroom or small 2 bedroom, have health insurance, internet $$ for travel in Asia and do some deep sea fishing on about $2,500. USD a month ??
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    Dec 31, 2019 at 11:44 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      December 31, 2019 at 7:15 pm

      Yes...Roughly, per month:$350 for accommodation $600 for food $200 for health insurance $20 for internet connection at home $500 for a short domestic travel trip each month / $1000 for international in Asia (obviously this can vary considerably depending on how you budget for the trip) $40 per boat trip for fishing /diving, whatever.$1,730.Other expenses may include:Moped rental (less than $100 a month) Life insurance ($50 month - totally depends on policy) Mobile phone($20 a month) Beer (how much do you drink?)You can easily live under $2,000 for what you want.
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      Dec 31, 2019 at 7:15 pm

    • Jim Vines says

      February 26, 2020 at 10:29 pm

      Can I Jimmy, come to lived there in Bangkok, Thailand and get married to a Thailand lady with one child 8 years old with only $1,500.00 a month?
      Reply

      Feb 26, 2020 at 10:29 pm

      • James E says

        February 27, 2020 at 2:52 am

        Bangkok would be tight unless you're way outside of the city center. A 2BR apartment would probably take about half of your budget.
        Reply

        Feb 27, 2020 at 2:52 am

      • Gary says

        March 1, 2020 at 7:35 pm

        I just moved out of a small 2 Bedroom appt in Nana and was paying 24000Baht a month rent with water and electric another 1200Baht a month just to give you some idea of condo prices in the Khlong Toey District
        Reply

        Mar 01, 2020 at 7:35 pm

        • Jim Vines says

          March 7, 2020 at 9:15 pm

          How much money's is24000 Baht and too 1200Baht?
          Reply

          Mar 07, 2020 at 9:15 pm

          • TheThailandLife says

            March 8, 2020 at 1:24 am

            He was paying $764.09 a month in rent, in a very central area of Bangkok. And $38 electric. There's a convertor in the article above for you to work out amounts.
            Reply

            Mar 08, 2020 at 1:24 am

  28. Yvonne says

    December 23, 2019 at 6:55 pm

    Hi Peter,

    I am interested to have
    a list of condos, especially modern Studio close to central and not further than On Nut BTS that are within “Approximately Housing Costs” mentioned in your article.

    Thanks
    Yvonne
    Reply

    Dec 23, 2019 at 6:55 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      December 23, 2019 at 11:17 pm

      Hi Yvonne, I don't have a list written up but a quick Google for condo rentals in Bangkok will return a lot of results. For example: 2 beds 2 baths in On Nut - 15k per month. Built in 2014. Has gym, swimming pool, etc. https://www.ddproperty.com/en/property/condo-for-rent-condo-lumpini-onnut-ladkrabang-2-near-airport-link-thap-chang-only-20-minu-for-rent-6690238
      Reply

      Dec 23, 2019 at 11:17 pm

    • James E says

      December 24, 2019 at 12:27 am

      There are a number of property listing sites you'll find on a search. Most of the sites support a sub-search by BTS station. For example: https:// www. thailand-property. com/condos-for-rent/bts/on-nut Also, make sure you know what district and sub-district you might be interested in as that can help you pick a neighborhood better.
      Reply

      Dec 24, 2019 at 12:27 am

  29. Mike A says

    November 19, 2019 at 10:12 am

    Gasoline is only about 25 baht not 30/40, 20gb internet on your phone for 200 baht per month, eating in food courts for about 40/50 per person. Beer , contrary to your statement, is VERY expensive in Thailand. You can get 6 half liter beers in Germany in a supermarket for 1.79 Euro, or 11 baht a bottle,

    Here you pay 4 to 5 times more for a bottle....
    Reply

    Nov 19, 2019 at 10:12 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      November 19, 2019 at 6:34 pm

      Hi Mike, the average value for gasoline (95) between August and November this year is 34.89, with a minimum of 33.66 Thai Baht on 04-Nov-2019 and a maximum of 35.76 Thai Baht on 05-Aug-2019. It depends what beer you drink, I guess. Beer is still cheap when you're out at a bar. For me, even at the poor exchange rate, a half decent beer for £1, even £2, at a bar is pretty damn cheap.
      Reply

      Nov 19, 2019 at 6:34 pm

    • Jim Vines says

      March 7, 2020 at 9:22 pm

      If we only have $1700.00 a month to lived on, Could we good on this?
      Reply

      Mar 07, 2020 at 9:22 pm

      • TheThailandLife says

        March 8, 2020 at 1:22 am

        You could definitely live on $1,700 a month. If there's two of you it will be more of a squeeze. It all depends on the lifestyle you want. You could have a one bed apartment for $500 in a decent area.
        Reply

        Mar 08, 2020 at 1:22 am

  30. 4tube says

    November 7, 2019 at 4:45 am

    What a great post. As someone who has lived for many years in both the US and England (hoping that one of them might turn out to be more viable as a reasonable place to live), this post resonates with me. I simply couldn t get by with a satisfactory quality of life in the UK, and (despite the constant land of freedom and opportunity propaganda), it seems equally impossible in the US. It costs me more per month just to insure my car than it does in Thailand for your entire rent payment (INCLUDING internet!) and health insurance? Forget about it. It s a far and distant dream, here. Even if I could afford it, I don t think I could ever be comfortable parting with THAT much hard-earned money for something that should be available to everyone especially since American doctors are so extravagantly overpaid. If I wasn t dead-set on getting out of here before, I certainly am now thanks for the reality check, Shannon.
    Reply

    Nov 07, 2019 at 4:45 am

  31. noname says

    October 23, 2019 at 7:49 am

    Personally the idea of eating Thai street every day sounds appealing as I hate cooking. I’d love to do something like that but I’ve never been outside the US so I’ve got a bunch questions that might sound silly. The visa thing, can you renew that indefinitely i.e. forever or is there a limit? I’m guessing you would almost have to work online somehow for income (for those of us not already set for life lol)? With an economy like that I would imagine working there isn’t an option? Any suggestions? Are many people bilingual there? Can you buy beer by the case more inexpensively and bring home like you can here lol?
    Reply

    Oct 23, 2019 at 7:49 am

    • James E says

      October 23, 2019 at 8:34 pm

      Jeez! That's a lot of questions. And most of them have answers elsewhere on the site! You'll have to do a bit of poking around and make sure to read all the comments. There's a wealth of information from other posters. But, in short, 1) Forever-ish on the visa. 2) You can work there, online or otherwise, 3) Yes and you should make yourself one of them if you want to have any fun at all. 4) Yes. Makro, Big-C, Tesco, and others all sell by the case. There's even a pretty big craft beer movement getting going. If you've never been outside the U.S. you should get your passport and head over for a trip. You'll be totally deer-in-the-headlights for your first few visits but once you get over that it all makes sense.
      Reply

      Oct 23, 2019 at 8:34 pm

  32. Boogle says

    October 1, 2019 at 8:48 pm

    I think this is super accurate. Very well written!
    Reply

    Oct 01, 2019 at 8:48 pm

  33. Lauren E Henry says

    September 2, 2019 at 3:01 pm

    bro, you can get a small room in Thailand for three to four thousand baht a month. Yes they are simple but not everyone is trying to live in a 500 dollar a month house when you can find simplicity for a hundred.
    Reply

    Sep 02, 2019 at 3:01 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      September 2, 2019 at 5:24 pm

      Sure, but I'm talking about apartments not just a room. Still, 3-4k a month is not realistic in central Bangkok or in Samui, Phuket or Chiang Mai. Upcountry yes, but in most places this budget would not get you something modern, clean and safe.
      Reply

      Sep 02, 2019 at 5:24 pm

    • GILBERT AGUILAR says

      November 30, 2019 at 6:20 am

      yes, you are correct, you need to search a little. I have rented small homes, mostly, for under $200 usd. a month, in many places in Thailand. I probably shouldn't say but I manage to live very well in Thailand with $600 usd. a month, doing the same things I do at home in the U.S.A....but doing it Thai style.
      Reply

      Nov 30, 2019 at 6:20 am

  34. Everistus Olumese says

    July 13, 2019 at 11:35 am

    I had an interview as a fullstack developer and was asked what salary I want. As a software engineer with a wife and two daughters, what do you think will be a good salary vis-a-vis the local rate that will give us a comfortable life and allow us to send money back home to Africa?
    Reply

    Jul 13, 2019 at 11:35 am

  35. Steve says

    July 11, 2019 at 4:54 am

    There is no mention of school fees in thus article which can cost more than you have quoted to live in Thialnd per child if moving with a family
    Reply

    Jul 11, 2019 at 4:54 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      July 11, 2019 at 5:49 pm

      You are right. I will add a section in regarding school fees.
      Reply

      Jul 11, 2019 at 5:49 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      July 12, 2019 at 7:51 pm

      Updated with school fees and a bunch of new items and cost of living tips.
      Reply

      Jul 12, 2019 at 7:51 pm

  36. Daniel says

    June 22, 2019 at 12:42 am

    hello everyone. I have indonesian passport and I understand that I can enter Thailand without VISA for tourist purpose. Can I extend my stay without leaving the country? Or if I get a job there, do I have to leave the country and come back?
    Reply

    Jun 22, 2019 at 12:42 am

  37. anton manwaring says

    June 17, 2019 at 3:16 pm

    Come to live here...why would you want to do that? Bad choice my friend. Everything is going up fast. Stay where you are as the Baht is too strong and your money is becoming worthless by the month.
    Reply

    Jun 17, 2019 at 3:16 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      June 17, 2019 at 4:25 pm

      Sure, it's not as cheap as it once was, but it depends what currency you are coming from. The Dollar is still bearing up well; fluctuating between 32 and 33. The Pound (£) is in the toilet. But for most it just means cutting back on alcohol and perhaps staying 3 or 4 star instead of 5. We all have to cut according to our cloth. Life is like this - ups and downs, swings and roundabouts. It's terrible for me at the moment, but rent is still cheap as chips. And hey, if you're a teacher on 40k Baht a month, that is now worth £1,000, when last year it was only worth £800. It's relative.
      Reply

      Jun 17, 2019 at 4:25 pm

  38. Seppo Carr says

    June 4, 2019 at 11:09 pm

    Very Helpful. Is there a recommended forum for trailing spouses?
    Reply

    Jun 04, 2019 at 11:09 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      June 5, 2019 at 1:30 am

      Thanks. Sorry, what do you mean?
      Reply

      Jun 05, 2019 at 1:30 am

  39. Alex says

    April 29, 2019 at 9:08 pm

    Most Thais live on 12.000 baht per month. That 20.000 baht figure is true in Bangkok but everywhere else the average salary is 12.000.

    Personally I live in Chiang Mai on a 15.000 baht per month with a 30.000 baht per month salary. But consider that I live in a 4000 baht apartment spend another 5000 baht in food and the rest is entertainment and the occasional doctor visit (even though my company pays for private insurance, another big advantage).
    Reply

    Apr 29, 2019 at 9:08 pm

  40. Eliana Apicella says

    April 4, 2019 at 11:06 pm

    Thank you! Very helpful information.
    Reply

    Apr 04, 2019 at 11:06 pm

  41. Kinley says

    March 17, 2019 at 12:30 am

    Can I take my 5 year old daughter to Thailand as I am going for masters program there....is it possible?
    Reply

    Mar 17, 2019 at 12:30 am

  42. Alex says

    March 1, 2019 at 8:16 am

    Questi sono i costi per uno che ha 3000/4000 euro di introito al mese, per quanto mi riguarda io vivo a bangkok da 11 anni e vivo con 45000 baht al mese, con 2 bambini e moglie.....
    Reply

    Mar 01, 2019 at 8:16 am

  43. peter says

    February 10, 2019 at 7:35 pm

    Hi, I have lived here for over 30 years and the now the time has come for me to move on.
    Of course my opinion is a personal and probably a biased one : Thailand and myself have grown 30 years older and maybe we were better before...
    I do appreciate all the comments and opinions in this blog and everybody is right with their own point of view depending on income and age and lifestyle.
    One can live here for 50,000 baht and for 100,000 baht and .......
    The thing is that Thailand has become very expensive for somebody with an normal western income and a liking for things European .....-like good wine, quality western food, good cars, playing golf etc etc..- (I think this is the only country in the world where a bottle of wine is more expensive than a bottle of vodka) For people who like that life style it will be cheaper to live in countries like Spain ,Portugal but certainly Croatia and Montenegro. Besides that I no longer like the extreme heat nor the wet season during April -November ....I know a lot of people will not agree with me but it does not matter, I wish everybody the best and please always use a rubber when you think you fall in love and please do not buy properties in other peoples names..
    Reply

    Feb 10, 2019 at 7:35 pm

  44. hosain says

    January 20, 2019 at 2:47 pm

    I'm 29 years old from the Middle East, and I've been with a Thai girl for two years and decided to get married.We decide to live in Thailand for several years after marriage.
    My question is: is there a job for a simple foreign worker in Thailand? If yes, how much of the salary can be planned?
    Reply

    Jan 20, 2019 at 2:47 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      January 21, 2019 at 7:23 pm

      There is no easy answer to this. See James' recent post, which summarised the way things are pretty well. There are jobs available, but you have to carve out your own path. Identify your skills, do research on potential companies and openings, and find a way.
      Reply

      Jan 21, 2019 at 7:23 pm

  45. daniel says

    December 15, 2018 at 4:51 am

    I'm thinking to move to Thailand next year. Is it hard to get Thai permanent resident?
    Reply

    Dec 15, 2018 at 4:51 am

    • James E says

      December 15, 2018 at 8:17 am

      Nearly impossible. First you have to live in Thailand for 5 years on whatever visa(s) are appropriate for you. Then, when you go to apply for your permanent status, you have to demonstrate fluency in Thai. I don't know what their bar for fluency is but it's way more than being able to order khao man gai. Your best bet is to look at one of the Elite Visas, you can get basically a semi-permanent status but you still have to report to immigration. Which task I think can happen online.
      Reply

      Dec 15, 2018 at 8:17 am

      • Martin1 says

        April 28, 2019 at 12:57 am

        It's three years!
        But the language requirement makes it very hard.
        Plus: there are quotas per year, and high costs.
        Reply

        Apr 28, 2019 at 12:57 am

      • Dave says

        May 5, 2019 at 8:22 pm

        The quotas are country specific. If you are American then you have lots of competition for the limited number of resident permits allocated. If you're Canadian, like myself, there are not so many applying so chances are better. I did it many years ago so it was a lot cheaper. If I remember correctly 100,000 baht but reduced to 50,000 if you were married yo a Thai citizen.inapplied, waited, extended after a year and then at the end of 2 years was granted a resident permit. No one tested my Thai.
        Reply

        May 05, 2019 at 8:22 pm

  46. Tor A says

    November 13, 2018 at 10:44 am

    After 20 years in/out of Thailand. Staying mainly in HuaHin-Bkk-Korat, just want to add. I believe that it is possible to save more on food and clothing, by visiting local markets. Cheap personal products in, TL, Big C, and Makro. Clothing/shoes, Pratunam,Platinum,MBK, no need to buy expensive brand clothing/shoes. But, at the end of the day it's "up to you" ;-) how you want to spend your hard earned money.
    Reply

    Nov 13, 2018 at 10:44 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      November 13, 2018 at 8:05 pm

      Indeed. Tesco is super cheap for clothes like polo shirts, t-shirts and shorts. They have some decent stuff in there sometimes. I have a couple of smart polos from there that I wear on casual nights out.
      Reply

      Nov 13, 2018 at 8:05 pm

  47. Vic says

    November 9, 2018 at 9:09 am

    A big thank you for compiling this. It is so useful and practical.
    I am shifting to Bangkok this December and would like to know some tips on negotiation of rent and what hidden costs there may be in villa or condo renting.

    Grateful for any guidance.
    Reply

    Nov 09, 2018 at 9:09 am

    • gary says

      November 23, 2018 at 7:55 pm

      Hi Vic,
      I am changing condos in January I currently pay 22K baht for a single bedroom/'bathroom condo off soi 6 Sukhumvitbut found a 2 bedroom / 2 bathroom condo in the next block for 24K baht so twice the size for only 2K more. I still expect to pay 3months rent on moving in day for deposit and 1 month use but all this was done by looking on the notice boards and a little haggling as the owner wanted 27K but had no interest. Prices in Bangkok as falling a little apparently so shop around carefully and there are good deals. Add 2K for electric, water and internet roughly.
      Good luck condo hunting
      Reply

      Nov 23, 2018 at 7:55 pm

      • Martin1 says

        April 28, 2019 at 1:00 am

        Until recently we were paying 12k THB for a studio in Lat Prao (near MRT) (SBK Residences), now we found something cheaper (and better) in Ari area (10 k THB).
        Both have pools, gym, and are close to BTS or MRT.
        Reply

        Apr 28, 2019 at 1:00 am

        • TheThailandLife says

          April 29, 2019 at 5:51 pm

          It certainly pays to move around every couple of years. When new condos are built they are keen to get them filled which makes pricing competitive and low for renters.
          Reply

          Apr 29, 2019 at 5:51 pm

  48. Ken says

    October 16, 2018 at 1:48 am

    John thanks for the value input. After doing my own research and visiting Chiang Mai three times from the US in the past 18 months to do research on long-term retirement, I believe your numbers are very accurate. I feel the biggest budget savings are in the area of housing, transportation and money you currently spend in the west, i.e. auto insurance, property taxes and expensive health insurance. I also agree that food cost are approximately the same, especially considering the smaller servings size of Thais. If you actually weigh out your meat and reduce portion sizes accordingly, it really not much difference. I feel a realistic budget for a comfortable retirement in the north to be @ US $1400-1800, while you can live for less.
    Reply

    Oct 16, 2018 at 1:48 am

    • RIO says

      November 5, 2018 at 1:37 pm

      Hi I will be moving to Phuket with my husband and 1 yr old baby I'm just wondering if I can still save with an offer of 2300 dollars with 10k bhat housing budget.
      And how much it will cost to get a nice fully furnished condo or apartment? Also planning to get a nanny for my baby are they good in taking care of baby?
      I'm not sure how I will budget my salary with my family. Or is it a good choice to move there.
      Reply

      Nov 05, 2018 at 1:37 pm

  49. Munif says

    August 30, 2018 at 9:41 pm

    Hi,

    My name is Munif, Im from Indonesia, I get an offer to work in Thailand for a 38.000 Baht permonth. From your opinion is it a good deal for deal for me?

    Fyi, Im 24 yo, single and also not a drinker.

    Thanks
    Reply

    Aug 30, 2018 at 9:41 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      August 31, 2018 at 12:40 am

      I don't know what the job is or what the prospects are so it is hard to answer this question. I guess you need to ask yourself whether this job will give you better opportunities that you can find in your home country, and whether your standard of living will be improved.
      Reply

      Aug 31, 2018 at 12:40 am

  50. Munif says

    August 30, 2018 at 9:40 pm

    Hi,

    My name is Munif, Im from Indonesia, I get an offer to work in Thailand for a 38.000 Baht permonth. From your opinion is it a good deal for deal for me?

    Fyi, Im 24 yo, single and also not a drinker.
    Reply

    Aug 30, 2018 at 9:40 pm

    • kevin jones says

      October 1, 2018 at 4:03 am

      wow yes ,what work are you going to do
      Reply

      Oct 01, 2018 at 4:03 am

  51. Neal says

    August 30, 2018 at 1:29 pm

    Hi TTL,
    I’m considering a job offer in Phuket. Am from London, UK. Can I live comfortably on THB 80,000 p.m? Am not a big drinker, non smoker. Do want to enjoy both Thai and Western food, maybe eat out a couple times a week (nothing fancy). Also would like to find a nice 1 / 2 bed condo possibly with pool & gym. I also would like to understand about personal income tax and what I would be liable to pay ? Is it true that even with a full business visa, that all westerners HAVE to leave the country every 90 days ?? Look forward to hearing your thoughts, cheers
    Reply

    Aug 30, 2018 at 1:29 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      August 30, 2018 at 3:05 pm

      Hi Neal,Yes, you can live on 80k a month very nicely. You will probably get a good 1-bed condo with pool and small gym for 15-20k; it depends on the area - can be less. When you have a work permit you only need to report to immigration every 90 days, not leave the country. There's a post on paying tax here: https://www.thethailandlife.com/income-tax-thailand
      Reply

      Aug 30, 2018 at 3:05 pm

  52. Maurice Arber says

    August 27, 2018 at 9:38 am

    A very interesting read.
    I lived in both Pattaya and Bangkok, in total 9 years.
    What a beautiful country and people.
    I do not have a bad word to say about Thais.
    The rip off artists were my own kind, foreiginers, so be more cautious and avoid conmen from our own nations.
    Reply

    Aug 27, 2018 at 9:38 am

    • Will smith says

      April 23, 2019 at 12:19 pm

      Well said.
      Reply

      Apr 23, 2019 at 12:19 pm

  53. Mian says

    August 11, 2018 at 6:46 pm

    Hi TTL! Thankyou for sharing information pertaining to living cost in thailand. I am from Pakistan and recently attained the age 60.As I recently retired from service,so now want to live in Thailand for some period and to explore. My monthly income is app1000 us$. Can I reside in thailand
    Reply

    Aug 11, 2018 at 6:46 pm

  54. Ann says

    August 3, 2018 at 7:11 pm

    My husband and I live in Sathorn, Bangkok. I agree with what you've written, your article is very accurate. 🙂I am sure it will help people wanting to move to Thailand 🙂
    Reply

    Aug 03, 2018 at 7:11 pm

  55. Koala says

    July 23, 2018 at 10:17 pm

    Hi John,

    This site is great and so informative, thanks so much!

    I'll be moving to Bangkok from Australia to start work in September on $6k USD per month and was just wondering if thats enough for my fiance and I (I'll support him until he can secure an engineering job! )

    I'd like to live relatively close to my office at BTS Phloen Chit but would like to live in Ekkamai or Thong Lo.... would you know the best sites I could look for a 2 bedroom, 2 bathroom rental before I arrive or best to get an air bnb for a month and apartment hunt when I arrive?

    Thank you!
    Reply

    Jul 23, 2018 at 10:17 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      July 24, 2018 at 5:53 pm

      Hi koala, that is a very good salary to have in Bangkok. But even still, you could spend that very quickly if you went for top end accommodation. Some of the two and three-bedroom apartments in the area you are talking about can rent for as much as $3,000 US per month, but most foreign nationals who live in such accommodation get some additional housing allowance from their company. However, you could certainly pick up a two-bedroom two-bathroom for 50-70k Baht per month near the BTS station in these areas.Have a look at prices here: https://www.thailand-property.com/condos-for-rent/bts/ekkamai?min_bed=2Your main expense will be your accommodation. But pretty sure you'll be able to find something with a swim poor and a small gym on site, Within the budget range I mentioned. Food is relatively inexpensive, as our utility bills. So your salary will be more than enough to support the two of you until your husband finds work. You will also have disposable income for some lovely visits to the islands.I personally always advise people to do apartment hunting after they arrive. Get a short rental or an air B&B and go out on foot and identify where you want to live. You really want to look up what type of street you are on, what the adjacent streets are like, what the through traffic is like, how far the nearest convenient store is, the true through distance to the station, etc.Condo viewings are very easy to arrange, and often can be arranged within the same day. If the apartment block is fully owned and not separate private rentals, you will be able to walk in and view any available apartments there and then.
      Reply

      Jul 24, 2018 at 5:53 pm

    • James E says

      July 24, 2018 at 10:31 pm

      Hi Koala,

      What TTL said... plus.

      The condo market in BKK is overbuilt right now so you might be able to land a brand new furnished place on a month-to-month basis. Check out Habito on Sukhumvit Soi 77. They run a frequent shuttle to BTS On Nut and Phra Khanong stations. There are also some other new and new-ish condos along Soi 77 that are hurting for tenants (based on the perpetual display of for rent signs). But no shuttle so you'd be out 35 Baht for a taxi... Those are far enough out that they would be reasonably priced. There are also some older, but well maintained, properties on Soi 81 convenient to On Nut.

      Of your two desired locations I'd spend more time looking around Ekkamai particularly between the BTS and Rama IV Rd. It's much more "Old Bangkok" (and as such a bit cheaper). Thong Lo is more geared to farang and Japanese residents and is priced as such. Just depends on what you're looking for.
      Reply

      Jul 24, 2018 at 10:31 pm

  56. John says

    July 18, 2018 at 2:20 am

    In a few years I can retire on a $5300 pension. I’ll receive US social security income about 10 years after retiring. My wife and I have 7 and 3 year old boys. Our priorities are finding a quality school for our boys and affordable high quality healthcare. My wife is from a provincial area of the southern Philippines, where we have spent a month or two during summer vacations living with and blending in with the local simple way of life. We would live frugally in Thailand. Can we live comfortably, send our boys to good schools, pay for excellent healthcare, and continue to save a significant portion of my pension? I started my family late so providing for them when I’m gone is a consideration.
    Reply

    Jul 18, 2018 at 2:20 am

    • James E says

      July 18, 2018 at 5:50 am

      John,

      $5300 in Thailand is a near princely sum. The healthcare at the major hospitals like Bumrungrad and Samitivej are as good as I've experienced anywhere. I can't comment on the price of schools but that can be determined easily enough. Even then I'm guessing that "a significant portion" might be a bit of a reach.

      The drawbacks would be the best schools, etc. are not going to be in areas where "frugal" living is really the local mode. Your sons' friends would all be in that area as well as after school activities, weekend parties and the other detritus of the young.

      Your description of the "local, simple" way of life is certainly possible but not necessarily convenient to the other amenities you require. If you haven't spent any time in Thailand I would definitely suggest a months-long visit just to get the feel of the place. If you have a few years still to go, also spend some time on shorter breaks to get an idea of the seasons and what you would expect from how things work and how to get them to work for you.

      You could, of course, look outside of Bangkok where costs might be somewhat less. It's all about balancing what your requirements are and what your budget is and finding places to compromise.
      Reply

      Jul 18, 2018 at 5:50 am

      • TheThailandLife says

        July 18, 2018 at 4:39 pm

        Average fees for a top international school in Bangkok average out around 600,000 Baht per school year. You could find a good school for 2/3 of that. Fees would be cheaper if you lived somewhere like Chiang Mai, but a top school there will still be 300,000 Baht per school year. You have 2 kids, so it will be a considerable expense.
        Reply

        Jul 18, 2018 at 4:39 pm

        • John says

          July 19, 2018 at 1:25 am

          TTL - I didn't mention that I'm a high school teacher - primarily science. I am licensed in 3 US states to teach Earth Science, Physics, and Technology Education. I have degrees in Geology, Flood Hydrology, and a Post-grad certification in GIS. I teach a college dual-enrollment Geospatial science course for high school seniors (12th grade).

          I was hoping we could keep things uncomplicated and opt for simply relying on the pension and teaching could be an option. Now, if we want to make this work I'd have to teach at the school my boys would attend. I know someone who taught for two years at The American School of Bangkok.

          John
          Reply

          Jul 19, 2018 at 1:25 am

      • John says

        July 19, 2018 at 12:58 am

        James - Thank you. The situation is the same as in the Philippines. The best private schools are in Manila...a place I will never live.

        TTL- I had a feeling the schools would be the deal breaker.

        What I find is that a single person can find it relatively easy to live well and cheaply. But trying to provide comfort, healthcare, and education for a family rapidly ramps up the costs.

        When friends ask me "Is it less expensive to live in the Philippines than the USA?" I say "It depends...can you live like the average Filipino or do you want to live like a middle class American?" Adding children to the equation is what destroys the budget - bigger place to rent, more expensive place to rent in a big city to be near the best schools and medical facilities, bigger utility bill, and moe expensive private school tuition.

        Thank you.
        John
        Reply

        Jul 19, 2018 at 12:58 am

        • TheThailandLife says

          July 19, 2018 at 1:12 am

          Do shop around for schools though. I'm sure you can find something that works for you. In my experience, some schools are rated highly because they cost a ton and the sons and daughter's of famous people go there. For example, if you were to opt to live in Chiang Mai, there is the Lanna International School, which is pretty reasonable. https://www.lannaist.ac.th/admissions-fees/fee-schedule/ There are always mid-priced options and some smaller schools too. I have a list of most of the international schools in Bangkok, if you are considering there: https://www.thethailandlife.com/international-schools-bangkok.
          Reply

          Jul 19, 2018 at 1:12 am

          • John says

            July 19, 2018 at 1:35 am

            Thank you for this school information. I haven't given up on Thailand. A friend asked me why not Philippines? The reasons are simple: 1. Better healthcare, 2. Better infrastructure, and 3. Better schools. I think Thailand is probably safer, generally. Like many Americans we could justify the entire move based on the high quality and affordable healthcare in Thailand.
            Reply

            Jul 19, 2018 at 1:35 am

        • James E says

          July 19, 2018 at 3:07 am

          John,

          As TTL says shop around. It seems to me that there is an international school almost at the same frequency as 7-11. Start with your budget and work backwards with hard numbers. Find a school with the curriculum you're looking for and then see what houses/townhouses rent for in the area and proximity to shopping and markets. This website: http://www.bangkokfinehome.com allows you to search by international school which would let you get an idea of local rents.

          My Thai friends who are my age (which is to say older than you) say Chiang Mai is what Bangkok used to be 40 and 50 years ago. It's a very pleasant place and the countryside is just minutes away.
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          Jul 19, 2018 at 3:07 am

  57. Chang Noi says

    July 15, 2018 at 8:21 pm

    I think you are forgetting a few things... The costs of staying here legally. The costs of travelling to your home country to visit family. Healthcare costs. I think living on Sukhumvit road in Bangkok is much more expensive as you state. If you not use the restaurants, bars, pubs on Sukhumvit road then why are you living there? Entertainment can be a expensive hobby.
    Reply

    Jul 15, 2018 at 8:21 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      July 16, 2018 at 5:49 pm

      I did cover healthcare and mentioned trips back home. I agree, entertainment can be an expensive hobby, and the cost really depends on your requirements - so to speak.
      Reply

      Jul 16, 2018 at 5:49 pm

  58. Brent says

    July 14, 2018 at 1:08 pm

    How much is an ordinary realist price for rent saying like a 1 bedroom apt?
    In baht’s and then in American money? (Im trying to comprehend the difference) My girl lives there. She likes to spend money and I’m not getting realistic information from her.

    If I was to send her a grand, would that be a lot of money for her? Would she be living large for a month or is that not a lot of money there? I don’t know the average pay there in American dollars. No im not actually gonna send her a grand, just an example. She wants me to go there. She has been here in the US a few times so she knows the difference but I don’t.
    Reply

    Jul 14, 2018 at 1:08 pm

    • James E says

      July 15, 2018 at 5:24 am

      This is one of those "it all depends answers". If you're in Bangkok, in the downtown, high-demand districts a 1-bedroom apartment would probably set you back US$800 - $1000/month (and up). Further out, but still easily accessible you're probably looking at $500 - $800. Still further out or across the river or away from the Skytrain/subway you might be able to find something liveable for $300 - $500. There's even cheaper than that but then you're talking no A/C, no pool, no good public transit, no nuthin'. Ask your question on YouTube. There are more "How much does an apartment cost in Bangkok" videos to watch than you could possibly have time for. If you're outside of Bangkok prices are cheaper still. So, as I started this with: It all depends.

      $1,000 is (currently) 33,260 THB. It's been dropping lately. In April it topped at around US$1 = 30.42 THB but in April, 2017 it was down around US$1 = 36 THB. It's pretty volatile. So, to your second question, it varies. But US$1,000 to the average Thai would represent about 2 and a half months' income.
      Reply

      Jul 15, 2018 at 5:24 am

      • Brent Taylor says

        August 12, 2018 at 1:17 am

        Alrighty thank you for your time . You explained a lot to me. I've read a lot about living there but for some reason I couldn't get the money part there. Conversions and all that. I am a certified welder. Im sure a job there for me wouldn't be to difficult. Im also a computer tech. I don't speak Thai so that's my only downfall right now. But again thank you for explaining all this. You guys are great. Im sure Ill be back with more questions as I progress into this adventure.. Brent
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        Aug 12, 2018 at 1:17 am

  59. Mark says

    July 13, 2018 at 1:19 pm

    I am retiring in thailand on 3500 dollars a month and 100.000 dollars in the bank can i live a life in luxury meaning can i party on the week ends in pattaya and live in a 25000 baht per month condo please anyone help me
    Reply

    Jul 13, 2018 at 1:19 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      July 13, 2018 at 8:05 pm

      This is more than adequate to live on in Pattaya, particularly if you're single and have no dependents. You most certainly can rent an apartment for that amount; you can get a very nice one-bedroom place with all the amenities at that rate. As for the party lifestyle, as with anything in life, there is low-end in this high-end, and it depends how much you indulge. That kind of budget will certainly afford you a good few beers out a few nights a week.
      Reply

      Jul 13, 2018 at 8:05 pm

  60. Allan C says

    June 10, 2018 at 7:05 pm

    I landed in Bangkok on May 10th 2018, my retirement journey has started. Let me give you a rundown on my costs of living in Bangkok in May/June 2018.

    Rental - There is a glut of empty condos on upper Sukhumvit BTS Line. You can rent a newish 24-32 sqm studio condo from B8,000 to B13,500 from Phrakanong to Bangna. Most condos are fully furnished and are within reasonable walking distant to a BTS. I have seen 10 studios ranging from the prices above and I settled for the cheapest one which is 600meters to Phrakanong BTS. This studio is the oldest of the 10 I have seen and is the biggest in terms of size with a balcony over looking Bangkok. Rental B8000 per month for a 12 months lease.

    Food - I am from Singapore and I prefer Asian food, the cost of food for me range from B40-B60 for Thai food per meal, which works out to be roughly approximately B150 per day.
    I also spend about B1500 per week for groceries and the occasional Japanese dinner, coffees and massages.
    Total for my first month was about B10,000.

    Transport - First month I spend about B3000.
    I never take taxis or tuktuk. There is a 50 BTS trips for the price of B1300 which work out to be B26 per trips, but I read this does not apply to any stations beyond Onnut.

    Internet - There is a AIS promotion currently which for 12mths of unlimited data usage,you pay B2300 for a speed of 4Mbps. I bought one for my iPad and one for my iPhone. My house rental include wifi which I was told was 6Mbps.
    No further cost.

    Utilities - I received my first bill yesterday from my landlord and it was B1678. It was prorated as I was not in the studio for the whole billing period. I paid B1500 for 22 days usage. Which if I grossed up will be close to B2000 per month, water was B100.

    Gym - Joined fitness first platinum and the cost was B2660 per month.

    VISA run - NIL as I have a retirement visa. But there is a 90 days reporting which I was told I could do online or by post or any agent can do for me for a B1000 fees. I will learn to do it online.

    Insurance - I bought a 12 months insurance (travel insurance from Singapore) which I understand will only applies for 90 days in Thailand. Preliminary enquiries is about B2000 per month.

    Total amount of monies spend per month, if I stick to this Budget should be around B30000.

    Hope this help those of thinking of moving to Bangkok but there is no Budget for buying clothing Nor upgrade of Phones and iPads.
    Reply

    Jun 10, 2018 at 7:05 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      June 11, 2018 at 3:02 am

      Fantastic report. Thank you for sharing.
      Reply

      Jun 11, 2018 at 3:02 am

    • Brent says

      August 12, 2018 at 1:31 am

      If you don't mind me asking? What do you get for income? Retirement doesn't mean your rich or anything. So Im trying to get the feel of the whole circle. Are you still saving money as you go or is the retirement fund going down as the years go by? SS isn't a lot and even pensions. What is your age?
      Reply

      Aug 12, 2018 at 1:31 am

  61. Alana Meylor says

    May 22, 2018 at 12:17 am

    Wow! I'll be sharing this with my congressman, they really need to read this.
    Reply

    May 22, 2018 at 12:17 am

  62. Melissa says

    April 26, 2018 at 4:02 am

    Hi, I just got a job working at an international school in Bangkok and I am concerned about obtaining a visa. The man at recruitment informed all I have to do is travel with my American passport, get a tourist visa and then apply for my work visa once I am in Thailand. This seems too easy and I don't know how to apply for my daughter who is my dependent. I am a single mom and I don't know if I need a letter from her dad giving me permission. Can you please give me some advice? Thank you in advance
    Reply

    Apr 26, 2018 at 4:02 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      April 27, 2018 at 12:17 am

      Hi Melissa,The official route would be to get a non-immigrant B visa. This can be obtained from the Thai embassy in your country, and requires you to have a letter from your employer confirming that they have offered you a position. Once you get to Thailand your employer should apply for a work permit for you based on the fact that you have that B visa in place. Technically, you could arrive on a tourist Visa, but this would then mean that once all the paperwork was sorted out for your job, you would have to then leave the country and go to a neighbouring country such as Lal, to get the DVDs up, in order for your employer to apply for your work permit. Some employers require people to apply for the work permit themselves, but I've never heard of this in the case of an international school. All paperwork to do with the work permit should be sorted out by the school.Now, in your case, because you have a daughter, you need to apply for a B visa because you will need to also get your daughter a Non-Immigrant “O” Visa for accompanying spouse or family members. When first applying for a dependent visa, your child will be granted a single-entry visa valid for a stay of 90 days. Her can be extended for 1 year at a time by applying for an extension at the local Immigration Office in Thailand. The application for extension should be made when there is still at least 21 days validity remaining on the current visa. Once inside Thailand, your daughter will have to submit a 90-day report at the nearest immigration office for each 90 days she is in the country, as will you.
      Reply

      Apr 27, 2018 at 12:17 am

  63. Dustin says

    April 17, 2018 at 9:09 am

    I'm thinking of moving to Thailand in a year or so. I'm a single guy. Don't drink or smoke and generally live a pretty quiet life. I'll have a income of about 47,000 baht with another 6,500 to keep in savings a month. I'd like to be out of Bangkok and close the the coast. Hua Hin is on my short list.
    Would I be able to live comfortably and still be able to do a bit of traveling on that amount? My ex-wife and daughter have moved to Sweden so I would like to be able to go visit and also be able to fly my daughter to Thailand once or twice a year.
    Reply

    Apr 17, 2018 at 9:09 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      April 17, 2018 at 4:16 pm

      Hi Dustin, Hua Hin is not a bad shout: there's some info on the town in this post: https://www.thethailandlife.com/hua-hin-thailand . I think you could live quite comfortably, albeit you might want to get a one bedroom condo and keep your rental expense down.I am not sure that you'd save much money though, it really does depend what your expectations are for quality of accommodation and what you want to be included in the complex of your condo/apartment block (pool, gym, etc). It also depends what your expectations for eating are. Are you happy eating local street food and at local Thai restaurants, or are you prepared to source vegetables and fruits from local Thai markets or supermarkets and cook at home, or are you someone who likes to out and eat Western food?Personally, for me Hua Hin is a great weekend getaway, but I think I would get bored after living there for a month or so. it always feels to me like outside of the small town everything else is really disconnected and doesn't have the same ambience and vibe as say Chiang Mai.I would actually say that Chiang Mai is a cheaper and possibly better option. For a quieter life with lots of beautiful green space not too far from the city centre, and many beautiful provinces adjacent which are easily travel to, it's a very popular place for expats. Eating out is very cheap there and plenty of options. In terms of air quality, Hua Hin is probably better. Of course, the downside is not having a beach there and being by the coast. That said, the beaches in Hua Hin are not very good and the water is not preferable for swimming on that side of Thailand - although if you're prepared to travel an hour or so from Hua Huin you can find better coastline.
      Reply

      Apr 17, 2018 at 4:16 pm

      • FLORENCE says

        May 4, 2018 at 6:00 pm

        HI dUSTIN I HAVE AN APT AT HUA HIN PLS DROP ME A LINE AND WE CAN DISCUSS FURTHER THANK YOU FLORENCE
        Reply

        May 04, 2018 at 6:00 pm

  64. daniel sunsouang says

    April 12, 2018 at 5:43 pm

    YES IN HUA HIN A Great City of the KING Family .on the Gulf of Siam. 200 Kilo from BKK by bus From the Airport 290 Baht each way .2.5 Hrs to 3Hrs .... Write to me dsthailand. More info Teachers need in many schools here .
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    Apr 12, 2018 at 5:43 pm

  65. Marlene Fletcher says

    April 7, 2018 at 3:03 am

    I would love to teach in Thailand but don't like the sound of condos. Are there houses available? I would like to bring my dog with me so is there housing that is suitable for keeping pets?
    Reply

    Apr 07, 2018 at 3:03 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      April 9, 2018 at 8:44 pm

      There are houses available, but obviously if you are staying in a big city like Bangkok condos/apartments are the obvious choice. There are some good houses for rent in Bangkok too, particularly townhouses. These tend to be not so central, unless of course you have a big budget. Some houses will let you keep pets. But you will need to consider the breed of your dog and how it will cope with the flight, adapting to the heat and humidity, and exposure to potential hazards in terms of stray dogs - which are everywhere - different types of bugs such as spiders, snakes, mosquitoes, the prevalence of fleas, and depending on where you are living a lack of places to walk your dog. I'm not sure where you live now, but generally there are parks all over Europe and the USA where you can walk your dog on a daily basis. This is not the case in Thailand.
      Reply

      Apr 09, 2018 at 8:44 pm

  66. Louise says

    April 4, 2018 at 4:23 pm

    Thanks so much for your site. I am from South Africa
    I am a executive chef and I have had my own business here for 11 years.
    I have been to Thailand 3 times and most recently stayed in Khaolak.

    I am 49 years.
    I am willing to trade my miserable life in South Africa for my personal safety and well being of my Soul for a life in Thailand, Can you suggest any options besides teaching?
    Reply

    Apr 04, 2018 at 4:23 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      April 4, 2018 at 5:40 pm

      You might try contacting some of the big hotel chains and seeing if they are looking for a head chef or even something at senior management level where you travel in the region to the different hotels creating menus and managing the general execution of the restaurants. I'm not sure how common these roles are, but I have seen foreign nationals working at senior management level in big chain hotels in Asia. apart from that, teaching is a good place to start, because it gives you instant access to an income that will help you pay the bills and often leads to other opportunities, in particular meeting people who may put you onto other jobs.
      Reply

      Apr 04, 2018 at 5:40 pm

  67. Wayne Bonney says

    April 3, 2018 at 3:58 am

    Personally I Love your site and find it spot on..I enjoy it very much..Please keep up the Great work. All the very best...Wayne
    Reply

    Apr 03, 2018 at 3:58 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      April 3, 2018 at 4:35 pm

      Cheers Wayne, thanks for reading.
      Reply

      Apr 03, 2018 at 4:35 pm

  68. Rob says

    March 26, 2018 at 7:42 am

    I just noticed the monthly costs for Bangkok. 75000 baht for a couple which is about $3150 Australian. I could live near to Perth for not much more than this. It is not that cheap unfortunately.
    Reply

    Mar 26, 2018 at 7:42 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      March 26, 2018 at 4:44 pm

      Hi Rob, that figure is based on living in Bangkok in a fairly central area, in a fairly nice apartment and living to the same standards that an average couple would enjoy back home. There are couples that live on the half of that money and would say that they live well and enjoy their life. However, if you are going to live somewhere in central Bangkok ,for a one or two bedroom apartment you are going to need at least 25 or 30K for something reasonably close to the tube and train services and that is of our good standard. That figure also factors in buying good quality food from the supermarket, and then you need to think about health insurance, perhaps life-insurance, et cetera. This figure could be significantly reduced if you lived in a city like Chang Mai, or even one of the islands like Koh Samui or Phuket. It all depends on your expectations of living standards. In my experience I have found that many expats, especially younger expats, move to Thailand and live quite a frugal existence to start with, in low budget accommodation, eating street food, only very occasionally buying very cheap clothes, walking or taking buses and doing everything very cheaply, but as they stay longer they tire of living in that way and either get a better job to earn more money or go back home.
      Reply

      Mar 26, 2018 at 4:44 pm

  69. Rob says

    March 26, 2018 at 7:31 am

    You give the rental costs for various apartments but you don't state the time period. Is it 40000 - 45000 baht for a month or a year with the 2 bedroom 2 bathroom condo? If it is this amount per month then it is way too expensive. If it is for one year then that is great.
    Reply

    Mar 26, 2018 at 7:31 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      March 26, 2018 at 4:49 pm

      That is per month for a two-bedroom apartment in central Bangkok of 65 m². Yes, that is a lot of money, but most people would have a studio flat or a one-bedroom, or even a two-bedroom bar of about 40 m² or perhaps even a bit less. The price I quoted you would get something modern, with a swimming pool downstairs, perhaps with a small fitness centre too. Again, as I said in my other comment, you can get something for half this. For example, I still live around 3 to 4 stops on the underground line outside of the centre of Bangkok and in my apartment block there were two bedroom apartments starting at 20K per month. it really depends on where you want to live and how fussy you are about the accommodation you're in. I quoted the prices for central Bangkok, because when people are moving to Bangkok this is the aspiration they have – to live very centrally in Sukhumvit: Ekkamai, Thong Lor, Asoke, Nana, Pleo Chit, etc. but if you go further down the line towards On Nut, Bang Chak, etc., you can find much cheaper accommodation - but it will take you perhaps 8 to 10 stops to get into the centre of town.
      Reply

      Mar 26, 2018 at 4:49 pm

  70. Scott says

    March 23, 2018 at 1:21 pm

    Personally, I found the information pretty spot on! I've been to Thailand 7 times in the past year. Keep up the good work!
    Reply

    Mar 23, 2018 at 1:21 pm

  71. Brent says

    March 1, 2018 at 7:14 am

    I went to this page hoping this would give me a good idea what the deal is in Thailand. My girlfriend lives there and I'm going on my first trip there soon. You have a converter but I was hoping that it would just show me the differences in money there 45,000 for rent. but you don't show what that's equal to in US money. Don't have the time to run through a converter. I was hoping from this page just something quick.
    Reply

    Mar 01, 2018 at 7:14 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      March 1, 2018 at 5:14 pm

      You just type the amount in the convertor and press the button. 45,000 Baht is currently $1,426.
      Reply

      Mar 01, 2018 at 5:14 pm

      • Simon says

        March 21, 2018 at 8:53 am

        Peter, what you do is fantastic and really very helpful. Unfortunately some people want everything wrapped up and packaged specifically for own needs, and everything presented so they have to do absolutely nothing for themselves. Your patience is incredible.
        Reply

        Mar 21, 2018 at 8:53 am

        • TheThailandLife says

          March 21, 2018 at 3:58 pm

          Thank you Simon, I appreciate your kind words. I must admit, it is a little frustrating sometimes when the answer someone is looking for is actually in the pos, but they haven't bothered to read the post and instead just written a comment.
          Reply

          Mar 21, 2018 at 3:58 pm

  72. Allan Chee says

    December 31, 2017 at 10:16 am

    I really enjoy reading your BLOG, maybe its time for a COST OF Living Thailand 2018 ?

    I was in Bangkok from Dec 23 - 28th looking for apartments to rent.
    I am retiring to BKK in April. The weather was great and cool .

    Onnut Prices , for a STUDIO ( The Link 1 2 3 4 ) - Baht 11K - 12K per month ( 28-32sqm) .

    The number of empty available Studios in this Building are a plenty.

    The agent said a deal can be done at Baht 10,000 or even below.

    Across the ROAD ( My Condo) at Sukhumvit 52 only have one available unit and this Condo was my preferred choice, asking Baht 12000 per month.

    Most of the condos I viewed were furnished ( cheap nasty furniture) .

    I think Baht 35-38K for a reasonable life style is possible for Bangkok, if one do not party or chase LADIES of the Night.

    A question I have - Can a foreigner obtained a THAI Credit Card ?
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    Dec 31, 2017 at 10:16 am

  73. John says

    December 29, 2017 at 12:05 am

    You guys are unwise thinking you can afford living in Thailand with kids on your budget. That's not realistic.
    Reply

    Dec 29, 2017 at 12:05 am

    • chrlsdixi says

      December 31, 2017 at 5:29 am

      hahahahah I do not know where you got these information,more than 3/4 of it is wrong. I just came back from Thailand I had rented a nice apt. in good neighborhood ,fully furnished ,cable and internet included for little over 200$ a month.Food is cheap,of course depend where you eat ,there was a small shop close to my place a plate of rice 2 chicken leg+salad about 3 $. I do not have time to write down all prices but for me as a regular retired person with 980$ a month I was able to even save over 300$ a month. Of course I do not smoke,I do not drink and I do not like chasing bar girls I prefer stay with my girlfriend.
      Reply

      Dec 31, 2017 at 5:29 am

  74. Eric Weber says

    December 5, 2017 at 5:29 pm

    So Peter, I do like what you are doing here. There is so much convoluted and dated information out there. So where does one go to get the true low down on living in the BKK area? It just feels to me that a person just has to "take the plunge" or go through a "trial by fire". Perhaps you might upload some links to employment sites and job search engines, as well as property rental websites. I found D and D properties Thailand to be quite user friendly.
    Reply

    Dec 05, 2017 at 5:29 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      December 5, 2017 at 5:49 pm

      Hi Eric, As you can see from the examples given and the comments, everyone's experience is different. It's possible to live on 35k a month, which many teachers do, 50-75k a month in a management job, or 100-150k+. I have a job board on the site here: https://www.thethailandlife.com/jobs. In terms of renting, there's something for every budget. Accommodation is cheap, it just depends on your requirements. If you give me an idea of what type of living standards you expect, I'll give you an idea of what cost per month you'll be looking at.
      Reply

      Dec 05, 2017 at 5:49 pm

  75. glory says

    December 1, 2017 at 2:48 am

    Hello, i want to study mechanical engineering in Thailand which university would you recommd? And how much would this degree program cost ,i nee to know more .Please reply via email.loads of thanks
    Reply

    Dec 01, 2017 at 2:48 am

    • Roberto says

      January 11, 2018 at 11:53 am

      Hi Glory, I would like to know the 3rd most popular colour of car in Paraguay. Please reply via postcard. Thanks.
      Reply

      Jan 11, 2018 at 11:53 am

      • Simon says

        March 21, 2018 at 8:48 am

        Brilliant reply Roberto! :-)
        Reply

        Mar 21, 2018 at 8:48 am

  76. sam says

    October 31, 2017 at 3:55 am

    Hi,
    I have been offered a job in Koh Phagnan for 22k a month but i have free live on and have a free meal a day when im working.
    Do you think I would be able to live comfortable on this and still be able to continue saving money to go travelling once i have finished my job?
    Many thanks
    Reply

    Oct 31, 2017 at 3:55 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      October 31, 2017 at 4:01 am

      It's doable. If you have free accommodation and one meal a day, you could limit your expenditure to 350 Baht a day and save half your salary. It might be tight sometimes but people certainly do live on this budget.
      Reply

      Oct 31, 2017 at 4:01 am

  77. Ra says

    October 20, 2017 at 3:04 pm

    Hi Peter,

    Thanks for your great writing.
    I feel it to be the most helpful and not overgeneralizing out there.

    You mentioned that the numbers above apply to those looking to live luxuriously as expats.

    What do you think about this:
    Young couple. Husband gets offered a THB 55K job in Central Bangkok (housing, transpo not covered). Wife a freelancer with USD 350-1500 income a month working remotely as long as there's high speed WiFi. Have a USD 20,000 mortgage to pay back home. Their plan: get a pet cat, have a child (maybe), continue traveling (crazy about this), wife to stop working one day soon (she wants it), send money back home for mortgage and parents every month.

    Should they move to Bangkok? Is everything planned doable? Or is there something they need to not do?

    Thanks in advance! :)
    Reply

    Oct 20, 2017 at 3:04 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      October 20, 2017 at 9:30 pm

      Hey, it depends how much your mortgage is each month. I assume it is pretty low considering in total it is only 20k?
      Reply

      Oct 20, 2017 at 9:30 pm

      • Ra says

        October 21, 2017 at 8:07 pm

        Um. We pay by the year.
        So really, the sooner we handle this 20K the better.
        Mortgage has been the thing that's always in the back of our minds when deciding on things. We've never had debt that huge.
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        Oct 21, 2017 at 8:07 pm

  78. Vivi says

    October 9, 2017 at 10:05 pm

    Hi! I got a job offer in Koh Samui 90k Bath and I have a family (1 kid less than 3 years old). My husband will try to get a job there as well. Do you think we can live well only with my salary until he gets a job?


    Thanks for helping
    Vivi
    Reply

    Oct 09, 2017 at 10:05 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      October 9, 2017 at 11:04 pm

      Yes, 90k is a good salary.
      Reply

      Oct 09, 2017 at 11:04 pm

    • Elby says

      December 2, 2017 at 3:43 am

      Hey whats it take for just a regular american no criminal background and decent work history but no college to move and live in thailand?
      Reply

      Dec 02, 2017 at 3:43 am

  79. Louise says

    September 26, 2017 at 5:13 pm

    Hi, hope all is well.
    my husband and i would like to move to Thailand to teach English, we have a 4 year old daughter.
    We are from South Africa, can you maybe tell us more about moving etc.
    how does everything work. please respond via email.
    kind regards
    Reply

    Sep 26, 2017 at 5:13 pm

  80. vikas chodankar says

    September 22, 2017 at 11:53 pm

    very expensive in thailand come to india goa half price of thailand for eg domestic beer is 14baht internatinal beer is 55 baht 12egg is 28baht rice is 11baht banana is 28baht chicken is 57baht denim jeans 550baht imported whisky balck dog 750ml is 650baht rent apartment is 5500baht per month fresh prawns in market 180bhat
    Reply

    Sep 22, 2017 at 11:53 pm

  81. yoona says

    September 8, 2017 at 1:49 pm

    Hello, I am Yoona, if i want to live in Thailand, could you explain to me for the cheapest budget. Thank you.
    Reply

    Sep 08, 2017 at 1:49 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      September 9, 2017 at 3:40 am

      Cheapest budget is probably about 25k Baht a month: living somewhere like Chiang Mai in a basic studio room and eating mainly Thai street food and buying veg and fruit from the local market. Could rent a bike for 3k a month too for getting around. I have a friend who lived happily that way for a number of years.
      Reply

      Sep 09, 2017 at 3:40 am

    • roland says

      September 16, 2017 at 3:05 pm

      I lived 2 yrs. in NongKhai, average 13,000 Baht.Room with Bathroom and balcony 4,100, free wifi, fridge, TV and furniture, buy your own bedding and pillow. Apartment building had washing machines to do your own laundry.Dont drink alcohol, but smoke. Breakfast at the market, lunch Thai style, dinner Thai style, buy fruit at the market, snacks, detergent, etc. at a Thai store, milk at 7eleven, I bought a new bicycle for 3,500 to get around. Never used taxi or tuk-tuk. Water around 100 per month, electric around 400 not using the Air-con. Aircon will use around 75Baht of electricity per day ! Get your body used to the heat, have only very short showers.
      Reply

      Sep 16, 2017 at 3:05 pm

      • TheThailandLife says

        September 16, 2017 at 3:20 pm

        Ah yes, I should have said it could be even cheaper living in the North East but most people intend on living in BKK, CM, Hua Hin, Pattaya or one of the islands. But wow, that's really cheap. Good on you. Must be pretty hot on that bike though! My skin wasn't designed for the burning sun.
        Reply

        Sep 16, 2017 at 3:20 pm

        • roland says

          September 16, 2017 at 3:44 pm

          I could shave another 3000 per month off that by quitting tobacco and coffee and milk. My room was nice and bright, there are cheaper ones available too.The first 2 month, the heat was killing me, coming from Canada. Then I started biking from 11 until 1 pm, shower, sleep 2 hours, shower and get out after 4pm. Many Thai families live on 10K per month.
          A typical Thai meal is no more than 40 Baht.
          Reply

          Sep 16, 2017 at 3:44 pm

      • yoona says

        September 28, 2017 at 1:04 pm

        hello there rolland, you very nice, live in nourth east ? city ? your apartement please, i wants go to thailand with small budget.
        Reply

        Sep 28, 2017 at 1:04 pm

        • roland says

          October 21, 2017 at 1:17 pm

          Yes, I lived in Nong Khai, in the Northeast, on the Mekong river, only 25 km from Vientianne ( Laos), ST apartements is the name of the 3 storey building where I rented my room.
          Reply

          Oct 21, 2017 at 1:17 pm

          • Shinji says

            December 14, 2017 at 8:50 pm

            Is there any cheaper aprtment for university student
            Reply

            Dec 14, 2017 at 8:50 pm

            • TheThailandLife says

              December 14, 2017 at 9:50 pm

              Many universities have dorms/rooms in the same way they do in the West. Contact the university you are planning to attend and they will provide the information. In addition, some students choose to partner up and rent a nearby apartment with more space.
              Reply

              Dec 14, 2017 at 9:50 pm

        • chrlsdixi says

          December 31, 2017 at 5:36 am

          I lived in Nong Khai very nice small town.I rented an apt. for 200$ a month internet included there are many food stands cheap, and very clean.Nice weather , friendly people.Just stay away from girls.
          Reply

          Dec 31, 2017 at 5:36 am

  82. Renata says

    August 24, 2017 at 4:20 pm

    Hellooo everyone,

    I am considering to move to Bangkok and I would like to know what would be a normal salary for professional in the early 30s working for multinational as customer support. I am living in Europe at the moment and I have been offered a job opportunity to move to Bangkok.
    Reply

    Aug 24, 2017 at 4:20 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      August 24, 2017 at 6:27 pm

      Hard to say. Could be anywhere from 50-150k (Baht). It depends on the company and the specific skills required for the job. What are they offering?
      Reply

      Aug 24, 2017 at 6:27 pm

      • Renata says

        August 24, 2017 at 7:36 pm

        Many thanks for your reply. It is around 960,000.00 THB per year - Gross
        I am happy about the possibility to move and experience a new culture e grow in my professional life but I am bit continuous as well. It would be a big move for me.
        Reply

        Aug 24, 2017 at 7:36 pm

        • TheThailandLife says

          August 25, 2017 at 11:19 pm

          Sounds like a good move. That's a good enough salary to live a good life in Bangkok.
          Reply

          Aug 25, 2017 at 11:19 pm

  83. Rahul says

    August 24, 2017 at 1:35 pm

    What's cost of lunch/dinner ( one sarter +one main dish+ 2 beers or two 60 ml whiskys) in BKK in a nice hotel or pub ??
    Reply

    Aug 24, 2017 at 1:35 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      August 24, 2017 at 6:29 pm

      Pub = 750-1,000 Baht. Hotel = 1,250 - 1,500. Really depends on how "posh" the place is.
      Reply

      Aug 24, 2017 at 6:29 pm

  84. Duncan says

    June 30, 2017 at 4:44 pm

    Do you know if there is a limit on the amount of Thai baht notes i can take into Bangkok from the UK.thank you Dunc.
    Reply

    Jun 30, 2017 at 4:44 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      June 30, 2017 at 5:15 pm

      As far as I know you are only allowed to carry in a maximum equivalent of 20,000 USD (in any currency).
      Reply

      Jun 30, 2017 at 5:15 pm

      • James says

        June 30, 2017 at 11:28 pm

        Last time I flew the reporting limit was US$20,000 or equivalent of "foreign currency". That's inbound or outbound. But, that's just without reporting. You're allowed to take in as much as you want but if it's over twenty-large you've got to declare it. For THB it's a bit more complicated. If the money is in Thai Baht notes you're restricted to a max of THB2,000,000 outbound to neighboring countries and Yunan in China and TNB50,000 outbound everywhere else. There is no mention of bringing THB into the country. Check out: http://en.customs.go.th/content.php?ini_content=departing_from_thailand&lang=en&left_menu=menu_departing_from_thailand
        Reply

        Jun 30, 2017 at 11:28 pm

  85. John says

    June 29, 2017 at 10:44 pm

    Hello, I was wondering about resources to find places to live in Bangkok. Is there a good website that offers to find places to live, or is it better to search once you are in Bangkok? Can you recommend a particular area to live in Bangkok? I am a newbie and know nothing about Bangkok living. I don't need anything fancy, so basically a clean and safe place where I can learn and explore the city. Thank You!
    Reply

    Jun 29, 2017 at 10:44 pm

    • James says

      June 30, 2017 at 8:12 am

      Hey John,

      Bangkok is like any other major city: different areas have completely different vibes. As a first-timer you 1) want to stay in the Sukhumvit corridor as it's (arguably) the most farang-friendly and has more of what you'd be used to coming from the west in terms of food markets, restaurants, etc. (As well as many English and International schools, if I remember right about your profession) And, 2) you want to be within a km of the Skytrain. Others will recommend other areas with completely valid reasons so listen to everybody. Budget-wise (as TTL has written (jeez it sounds almost divine)) the further out Sukhumvit you go from the central core, the cheaper things get.

      Not that I'm an expert, but here are my 2 cents: On Nut. There is an absolute explosion of condo development around and near On Nut BTS station. Rents (from the little research I've done) are reasonable there are many small hotels and guest houses to get started with, and Siam station is about a 15-20 minute ride on the Skytrain. If you want a cheaper and more-close-to-local experience I'd suggest you look at Sukhumvit Soi 81. Lots of restaurants, street food, fresh markets, and still close to the Tesco Supercentre and Big-C. For a bit more residential area (meaning you've got to travel to get where you want to go) I really like the area between Ekkamai and Phra Khanong from Sukhumvit Rd down to Rama IV.

      I'll be interested in seeing what others recommend too.
      Reply

      Jun 30, 2017 at 8:12 am

      • John says

        July 1, 2017 at 11:57 pm

        Wow, thank you! I really appreciate the information. I am very excited to come to Thailand. I will be there in about 2 months.
        Reply

        Jul 01, 2017 at 11:57 pm

  86. Pascale says

    June 8, 2017 at 6:48 am

    Hello, I live in Canada, and thinking of spending next winter in Thailand, near the beach. All I need is a one bedroom place. Where would be the best spot in terms of beach location, cleanliness & resonable cost?
    Reply

    Jun 08, 2017 at 6:48 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      June 8, 2017 at 6:10 pm

      Samui is not a bad shout. Check out the Bophut area, which is generally quite cheap on studio apartments.
      Reply

      Jun 08, 2017 at 6:10 pm

  87. Hussain says

    May 18, 2017 at 7:46 am

    I'm from india planning to set career in Thailand bangkok I'm belongs to sales profession.so what salary package make sense to survive can you suggest.
    Reply

    May 18, 2017 at 7:46 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      May 18, 2017 at 4:58 pm

      Well, you can see the cost of things from the post, so you have to weigh up your priorities. I'd say 25k as a minimum, and that would be with basic accommodation like a studio apartment for 5k and eating local foods. 30-35k is a basic foreign teacher salary, so perhaps aim for that and above. At the end of the day, I have met foreign nationals who have no problem budgeting on 30k, and met others who struggle on 75-100k.
      Reply

      May 18, 2017 at 4:58 pm

  88. John Stagg says

    May 11, 2017 at 6:01 pm

    Hi, Thank you for replying to my enquiry so promptly.I am still confused about rentals in Bangkok I want to retire in Thailand and will only have an Australian pension of $400.00 per week to live on,how much could I rent a 2 bedroom apartment for in Bangkok per week in Australian dollars,were i to work in Bangkok it would affect my pension if money was paid into an Australian bank account ,if money was paid into a Thai bank account would the Australian tax office know about it?i note that you are married to a Thai girl I would like to meet one though not in a bar do you think these Thai dating sites are a good idea? Best Regards, John Stagg.
    Reply

    May 11, 2017 at 6:01 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      May 11, 2017 at 6:46 pm

      It depends how luxurious the 2-bed and where. Let's just say you could rent a place in an area a few stops from the centre of town for 30-40k Baht per month. I don't know what that is in AUD. On the tax issue, I can't advise you to do anything underhand. The dating sites can be a good idea. Like any dating site in Australia or elsewhere, set out your expectations in terms of the type of woman you want to meet. A good way to approach it, and indeed when it comes to dating in Thailand full stop, is to consider each situation as you would have bak in your own country. Don't rush in, do date for a long time, do not move in quickly with a woman, do not hand out money or begin supporting someone quickly, find someone who is independent and self-sufficient and not reliant on you for money. Relationships don't always work out the way we envision them, but when it comes to Thailand, keeping a sensible head is a must! I have reviewed the best sites here: https://www.thethailandlife.com/6-thai-dating-websites
      Reply

      May 11, 2017 at 6:46 pm

  89. Pat says

    April 16, 2017 at 12:53 pm

    Thanks for your awesome blog! I really enjoy reading your articles since they're extremly helful.

    i just got my first electricity bill and i wonder if I'm an excessive user 20days and 1100Baht.
    so I guess it will be 1650Baht for a whole month.
    is that too much?

    thx!

    pat
    Reply

    Apr 16, 2017 at 12:53 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      April 16, 2017 at 4:34 pm

      That really depends on 4 things:

      1. How big is your apartment?
      2. Do you run 1 or 2 air conditioner units?
      3. Do you run the air-con all day and all night, and at what temperature?
      4. Is you electricity the government rate or the rate given by the condo? If so, what is that rate?
      Reply

      Apr 16, 2017 at 4:34 pm

      • Patricia says

        April 23, 2017 at 12:48 pm

        Hello,
        my apartment is 28m2 "big"
        I try to only run one unit - only both when I'm melting
        It runs half of the day but allnight long
        21C
        I think its gouvernment rate 150 (1-150) 125..
        (sorry, I don't really understand the invoice!) I get the invoice from the Metropolitan Electriciy Authorty


        thanks,

        pat
        Reply

        Apr 23, 2017 at 12:48 pm

  90. Abdirahman says

    April 14, 2017 at 4:46 am

    Greetings
    thanks a lot again and again really u give me a lot of information about Thailand , I am from Somalia( in Africa) Although I am studying my bachelor degree in Bangladesh and I would like to study my master degree in Thailand and I am interesting to study shinawatra university but I have no more idea about tuition fee for international students and i want to study {Master of computer science and Engineering or IT } so please help me I am requesting u kindly to know two quations
    1 How mach do u thing the tuition fee for whole semester approximately about master of computer science and engineering or IT
    note= please if u do not have any idea about it, try to find it because I thing u live in Thailand, so if u try I hope to find
    2= I am single and I don't smoke and even I don't drink I also don't like Eating more I Eat two times in 24 hours and I don't like traveling and losing time without meaning so How much money do u thing i can use per month
    such as food, renting a single room, and a little bit shopping,
    So please and please I am requesting You again to Answer me kindly my two quations
    THANKS a LOT
    Reply

    Apr 14, 2017 at 4:46 am

  91. Marcia says

    April 4, 2017 at 4:23 pm

    Your comments are very useful, many thanks. We are being offered to relocate to Bangkok, but I can't find information about relocation packages for high tech managers. We have two kids that will go for international schools, that is expensive. I also couldn't find information about fees for psychotherapists - I wonder how much an average session costs, in English, of course. Maybe you could help us with that?
    Reply

    Apr 04, 2017 at 4:23 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      April 4, 2017 at 4:36 pm

      I don't know really, but I would expect that an expat psychotherapist would cost around 2,000 Baht per session. So $60 or so.
      Reply

      Apr 04, 2017 at 4:36 pm

      • Tanisha says

        April 5, 2017 at 12:49 am

        Hi ,I just read your article.thanks for sharing all these information.but my curious mind wants to more.well I am tanisha from Bangladesh and I am planning to do the TEFL certification program in Thailand, Phuket and the 3 weeks course will start on 5th of June 2017.i just wanted know
        what's the possibility of getting English teaching job in schools there in Phuket and what will be the salary approximately​?And as I want to save maximum portion of my salary so is this possible to find a room within 1500-2000 baht?
        Reply

        Apr 05, 2017 at 12:49 am

        • TheThailandLife says

          April 5, 2017 at 3:25 pm

          Hey, I answered this in the email you sent me.
          Reply

          Apr 05, 2017 at 3:25 pm

  92. Abans says

    March 16, 2017 at 12:46 pm

    Hello, am from India and currently in middle of an interview that may offer a job in Pathumwan. The final round is pending which will have discussion around salary and other formalities. Little confused on how much would I require to make a decent life here and little saving . If things go well, planning to move-in along with my partner. Importantly, would require a good place to stay (1 or 2 bedroom) and not in to drinking, smoking, and partying :)
    Reply

    Mar 16, 2017 at 12:46 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      March 16, 2017 at 4:52 pm

      Hard to say. It depends on your expectations for standard of living. If you read through the post and the comments you will get a perspective on the different levels of living standard that are possible. Will your partner be working? You need to consider his/her salary in your calculations.
      Reply

      Mar 16, 2017 at 4:52 pm

  93. Guy says

    March 13, 2017 at 5:22 pm

    Thanks for the heads-up on this. I have property in Thailand that has no outstanding payments so I could live there rent-free, while still earning from part-time overseas work I do. I'd only have to pay for electric/water, annual maintenance, car hire, F&B and flights to see relatives in the UK... what sort of figure do you think I need to pull in to live like this (the big thing for me is NO rent!)? Oh and it would be in Chonburi but I am not a Walking Street hound...
    :-)

    I currently live in a city where my rent is about 800,000 baht a year and a beer is around 400 baht so you can guess why I've had enough!
    Reply

    Mar 13, 2017 at 5:22 pm

  94. Jo says

    February 28, 2017 at 6:49 pm

    What about child care/nursey fees? I'm a single parent with at 5-year-old daughter trying to figure out if Thailand is a possibility.
    Reply

    Feb 28, 2017 at 6:49 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      February 28, 2017 at 8:33 pm

      It really does depend on what nursery you go to. Most tend to be schools that have a nursery (pre kindergarten) that will take them from the age of 3 as long as they are out of nappies. The cost will range from 150k per year to 600k Baht depending on the school. You may find cheaper but it won't be of an international standard. They do have playgroups for 1-3 year olds whereby you stay for a few hours with your child and they do various activities and learning games, that is if you are just looking for a place to socialise your child. If you want baby care (under 3), you'd be better off looking into a full-time nanny. 15k Baht a month would cover that. You might choose for the person to live-in and provide meals as a part of a benefits package.
      Reply

      Feb 28, 2017 at 8:33 pm

  95. Henning Olivier says

    February 27, 2017 at 2:55 am

    How about weekend trips to other towns/cities now and then? Is it relatively affordable and can it be accommodated on an average salary?
    Reply

    Feb 27, 2017 at 2:55 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      February 27, 2017 at 3:40 am

      Trips out of town can be as cheap or as expensive as you want them to be. For example, you can travel to Hua Hin from BKK by shared minivan for 400 Baht, or take a private one of your own for 3,500 Baht. Same with hotels. You can stay for 1,000 Baht a night or 4,5, 6,000 Baht. Internal flights are mostly pretty cheap too, except those to Samui!
      Reply

      Feb 27, 2017 at 3:40 am

  96. JOSTEIN ENGEN says

    February 12, 2017 at 2:30 pm

    Hi there.

    I live on Pratamnak hill in Pattaya. The rent is cheap around here and You get a very Nice one bed room apartment for about 10000 bath month. I live a very good life in Thailand for 50.000 bath month. The same life in europe would cost me around 150.000. So its still cheap to live in Thailand if you dont party on a lot.
    Reply

    Feb 12, 2017 at 2:30 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      February 13, 2017 at 5:20 am

      Very true. It's the nightlife that eats up a lot of people's money.
      Reply

      Feb 13, 2017 at 5:20 am

    • Richard says

      March 30, 2017 at 1:00 pm

      Agree , I have condo at Pratumnak hill ( Soi 6) , although I don't live there full time yet but had experience living 3 month there in 2009 . For a average expenditure for a month for me was 50,000 bt , bear in mind that I am a non drinker and a non smoker , also I don't party a lot too , I avoid places like walking st . Life is great there if you have a regular hobby such as golfing or gym or any hobby you may have is available in Thailand . Would advise anybody who plans to move there to have a three month trial rather than move there completely. Then you will know what budget cost for your lifestyle . Every person's budget is different . Health insurance is paramount important if living there full time , can be around 50,000 baht a year or little bit more .
      Reply

      Mar 30, 2017 at 1:00 pm

      • Ridanne says

        April 1, 2017 at 9:27 am

        You mention you don't live in your place in Pattaya. Do you let it out? I'm in need of rest and recuperation after illness and looking to get away from the UK for 4/6 weeks. Do you have any recommendations?
        Reply

        Apr 01, 2017 at 9:27 am

  97. Jo says

    January 23, 2017 at 7:45 pm

    Couple with one child living in chanthaburi needs 75000 baht per month to live a modest but comfortable life. We own our house, so no rent. There are always unplanned expenses such as car repairs for example, so it's not just a case of working out what you need for rent and food. If you are planning on living here you will have plenty of time for hobbies and projects and these involve expenses. Thailand offers the possibility to do many things that are 'unaffordable' in the west which is why it can be so rewarding to live here... but nothing is free. A small family can live well on 70000 baht a month. That is my experience. Lived here for 11 years.
    Reply

    Jan 23, 2017 at 7:45 pm

  98. salome peretz says

    January 22, 2017 at 6:02 pm

    hello...we are a couple, planning to re-start our new lives in Thailand; i would like to know if 100,000 THB will be enough for at least 2 months, looking to stay in a low cost city like Chiang Mai but not sure if is the right place to start business; our intentions is to open impo / expo business but not sure if this city is appropriate.

    Thanks for your advice
    Reply

    Jan 22, 2017 at 6:02 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      January 24, 2017 at 5:16 am

      100k will be enough for 2 months if you budget well. I'm sure there are export opportunities in Chiang Mai; it depends what industry you have in mind I guess.
      Reply

      Jan 24, 2017 at 5:16 am

  99. gen says

    January 16, 2017 at 3:47 pm

    How about school fees? Primary schooling in a Private or IS? :S
    Reply

    Jan 16, 2017 at 3:47 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      January 16, 2017 at 9:43 pm

      It depends where. In Bangkok, the best private schools start at around 300,000 Baht per term, going down to 50k per term, depending. Best is an ambiguous term here though. Just because famous people send their kids to a school, doesn't mean it is the best for your child. Much of it is based on reputation of name, not necessarily quality of facilities and teachers. So you have to investigate. Chiang Mai has some good schools, and far cheaper than Bangkok.
      Reply

      Jan 16, 2017 at 9:43 pm

      • Jo says

        January 23, 2017 at 7:58 pm

        Good schools outside of Bangkok, chanthaburi for example will cost between 6000 and 10000 baht per term. These would be Thai schools not specifically for foreigners. In many cases you can add another 2000 baht a month for transportation costs either with a school bus or your own car
        Reply

        Jan 23, 2017 at 7:58 pm

    • Damien says

      March 13, 2017 at 7:40 pm

      A Thai friend of mine sends his kids 4 & 7 to a private school B27000 a semester per child. As i understand it there are two Semesters in the yearly curricula.
      Nakhon Si Thammarat, south, 300km north of Malaysia.
      Reply

      Mar 13, 2017 at 7:40 pm

  100. Bruce Watson says

    January 16, 2017 at 4:17 am

    Thank you very much for the info most helpful
    Reply

    Jan 16, 2017 at 4:17 am

  101. Josh says

    January 11, 2017 at 12:05 pm

    please am from Nigeria I wanna ask like how much can I spend on the travelling and Visa and how can I apply to an undergraduate university also wanna ask how much is it going to cost for the whole thing
    Reply

    Jan 11, 2017 at 12:05 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      January 11, 2017 at 5:01 pm

      To stay in Thailand you need an Ed visa (B category). There are details on this page Accommodation and travel costs really depend on your expectations.
      Reply

      Jan 11, 2017 at 5:01 pm

  102. Jake says

    January 5, 2017 at 11:23 pm

    Hi there,

    I am retired military, and make around 4000.00 USD, per month. Would this be enough to live really well, meaning a nice condo in a nice neighborhood, eating good, decent social life, things like that?
    Reply

    Jan 05, 2017 at 11:23 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      January 6, 2017 at 6:04 pm

      Absolutely. You could live a nice life here for that. But don't forget to factor in medical insurance. You can get an idea of what that will cost here: 2,000 should be enough. You can save the rest.
      Reply

      Jan 06, 2017 at 6:04 pm

    • oracle says

      January 15, 2017 at 10:43 am

      Are you thick jake..didnt you read what he wrote...you make 4000 us which is 140,000 baht a month...thats three times ...hes estimate on living like western standards in thailand.....it never ceases to amaze me that this jake guy is on huge money and he hasnt got a fckn clue...a fool is easily parted with his money!
      Reply

      Jan 15, 2017 at 10:43 am

    • Mark says

      January 19, 2017 at 9:57 am

      Like a king
      Reply

      Jan 19, 2017 at 9:57 am

  103. Rodrigo says

    December 2, 2016 at 1:50 am

    Hello! We are a couple with two children, one of 10 and another of 4 years and we are going to Thailand to spend 30 days. We would like to know if with THB 100000 just for food, drink and transportation we managed to get through this period.
    Transport would be taxis and boats to the beaches as we will stay in Krabi, Railay, Chiang Mai and Bangkok.
    Anyway, this value is only for fun since travel and lodging are paid for.
    Thank you :)
    Reply

    Dec 02, 2016 at 1:50 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      December 3, 2016 at 4:22 am

      Since travel and accommodation are paid for, I think this will be enough. It works out at 833 Baht per day each. If you want to do some trips here and there, you might have to have a few relaxing days here and there where you don't spend much money to compensate. I think this will work out though.
      Reply

      Dec 03, 2016 at 4:22 am

  104. Leigh says

    December 1, 2016 at 11:50 am

    One question......can US citizens still receive their Social Security Disability while living in a foreign country?
    Reply

    Dec 01, 2016 at 11:50 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      December 1, 2016 at 1:43 pm

      Yes they can.
      Reply

      Dec 01, 2016 at 1:43 pm

  105. Leigh says

    December 1, 2016 at 11:42 am

    If you want to be able to barter & get the best prices......find a Thai that speaks English. They will give lower prices tto them than Americans. Have family that lives in Thailand & his wife is Thai. That is how they get best deals. They are going to be helping me set up an export business.
    Reply

    Dec 01, 2016 at 11:42 am

  106. Steve says

    November 30, 2016 at 5:16 am

    Are there any ideas on picking up extra income or bartering?
    Reply

    Nov 30, 2016 at 5:16 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      November 30, 2016 at 3:27 pm

      You mean bartering over goods to buy? This is generally only done at markets, usually night markets, street markets and those you often find on the first floor of shopping malls.
      Reply

      Nov 30, 2016 at 3:27 pm

  107. Daniel Mohandoss says

    November 23, 2016 at 1:59 am

    Hi,

    Very informative. I am from India and I got a job in Bangkok. They are ready to offer 32K Baht per month with accommodation and food. I am single, will money be ok for me to live a decent life and save some if possible?
    Thanks in advance.
    Reply

    Nov 23, 2016 at 1:59 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      November 26, 2016 at 11:19 pm

      It depends on what your expectation for standard of living are like. If your accommodation and food is covered; I'd say you could get by on 500 Baht a day and live quite well, since it's rent and food that are the biggest costs. So you could save 15k I reckon.
      Reply

      Nov 26, 2016 at 11:19 pm

  108. ham says

    November 20, 2016 at 7:23 pm

    TTL
    Tell me i am moving to Samui in December 2016, I have 500,000 baht to last me 6 months as I am going to work as a Real Estate Agent there with an International company.However it is a commission only position. Does anyone on this forum have experience in this area. I believe I can make 500,000 to 1,000,000 baht a year but does anyone have experience in this area. Also would I be able to survive with a rent of 10,000 baht a month for 6 months and a partner Would the B500,000 be enough for 6 months?
    Reply

    Nov 20, 2016 at 7:23 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      November 21, 2016 at 4:50 pm

      500k is enough to last you 6 months. 10k will get you a decent studio. Go 15-25 if you want a spacious one bed, depending on the city/island.
      Reply

      Nov 21, 2016 at 4:50 pm

  109. Jimbo says

    September 25, 2016 at 4:59 pm

    great site,, great info....
    BUT Its all up to you and how yoou live in the end,, For the newbies it cost more and over time you understand you pissed away money you did not have too in the end...

    Insururance.... Yes you need to cover this and make sure your azz in covered..

    also the odds and ends.....

    30,000 Baht,, live on a Island.... Have a nice house,,, eat well.. Fish,,, Read,,
    enjoy time with Local friends and expat friends...

    I could spend more no issues.... But i simply do not need to prend it...

    And a smart person can always make a few baht here and there..
    Reply

    Sep 25, 2016 at 4:59 pm

    • ham says

      November 20, 2016 at 7:04 pm

      Jimbo
      From what i hear you saying living on an island ,say Samui you can make it on 30,000 baht Great as I will be receiving 65,000 per month
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      Nov 20, 2016 at 7:04 pm

  110. Willy says

    September 2, 2016 at 12:23 am

    How can you live from 80.000 with a family in Thailand ? I live 18 years in BKK and can tell you it's more expensive than that, unless you want to live low so as the Thais say. When you count all together, medical (OPD per person min 25.000 per year or more as you get older) car insurance 15.000 then school for your child 260.000 per year. House electric water internet TV Car tax , one time in the week for dinner and a beer 3000 , then the visa 800.000 in bank account for 3 months. or income from outside, for a year visa. Visa runs joke, forget it. You come to Thailand the first time take a rough 500.000 to buy al your stuff. Then a 100.000 >< 120.000 per month. Then you're ok. Unless you want to stay at home all the time. Then better stay inyour own country, and visit Thailand for 2 months or more per year.
    If you come to
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    Sep 02, 2016 at 12:23 am

    • Alanni Diamsay says

      September 11, 2016 at 12:58 am

      My partner sends 6thousand bhatt few months to a child says that he is the father without any DNA test done.before its 11thousand bhatt monthly for a 4 tear old girl.is this too much thos 6thousand bhatt/ 11 thou for this chils to spend monthly?
      Reply

      Sep 11, 2016 at 12:58 am

      • TheThailandLife says

        September 11, 2016 at 11:57 pm

        6 thousand would just about pay the rent on a small studio apartment in Bangkok (a clean, safe one -- you could get cheaper, but I wouldn't, not for a child).
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        Sep 11, 2016 at 11:57 pm

    • Lars says

      November 29, 2016 at 10:14 am

      Willy, I completely agree. I have been working here for almost a year as a plant manager, making 120.000+. I live in Samut Prakarn (Ikea area, so not down town) and I have to say that housing, food, transportation cost (I have to drive a car to get to work. But I have to drive 20 km since there are no nice areas to live close to my work) are almost as high as Europe (if you consider quality and service of what you get into the equation). If you like to live at the same level you were use to then you will be spending nearly the same money as at home. Healthy food (e.g. fruits, yogurt, etc.), fast internet, quality clothing are much more expensive than many European countries. Health insurance is not of the same quality, you are not building a pension, but you do end up paying 20-25% tax getting little to none in return. Yes, the food is great, the weather is wonderful and lots more, but cost of living and the other daily annoyances like traffic (jams), few places to walk/bicycle, few parks, etc. should be taken into account when living here. 10 years ago things were definitely more affordable. Yes you can live cheap in BKK, but you will have to forfeit many things you were use to at home or accept a different quality/service. With everything in life, weigh the pros and cons and once you make a decision focus on the pros and enjoy.
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      Nov 29, 2016 at 10:14 am

  111. Jorsh says

    August 28, 2016 at 7:57 pm

    Hi there
    I am planing to visit Chiang Mai Thailand soon which I would like to know if my budget fits. I'll be traveling from New Zealand which I would like to spend 2 months in Chiang Mai. I have a total of NZD$3000 to spend and my plan is NZD$1000 for a 2 month apartment rent plus a $1000 for grocery or street markets and a $1000 to entertain myself. Just wanted to know if this is gonna work out or not?

    Thank you
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    Aug 28, 2016 at 7:57 pm

  112. Mani says

    August 22, 2016 at 2:50 pm

    Hi,

    This is mani here and am looking for a job in thailand. Am here living with parents and my salary is 72000 Inr after all the deduction and tax. and am living here standard life with 2bhk house in major place in Chennai city in India with all the facilities . if i relocate to their what i can expected to maintain little more high level life or at least maintain the same set of life.
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    Aug 22, 2016 at 2:50 pm

  113. Ricardo says

    August 19, 2016 at 9:58 am

    Hi, I am living in Udon Thani but to be honest I don't enjoy it that much. Except for a very decent park there isn't nothing attractive about the city. Absolutely nothing to do. I have two young daughters and I would love to move over to another place. I was thinking about Chiang Mai, but land/housing seems to be quite expensive. Do you have any idea of a nice blossoming place in Thailand that offers nature, cultural life, good schools and isn't so expensive? Sorry for the difficult question...
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    Aug 19, 2016 at 9:58 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      August 21, 2016 at 4:44 am

      I think Chiang Mai is a great option, and would probably be my choice. There's plenty going on there with some wonderful scenery. Accommodation is cheap if you rent. There's some decent schools too. I really can't can't think of any other place that is blossoming and suitable for an expat with kids. Hua Hin is nice, but boring.
      Reply

      Aug 21, 2016 at 4:44 am

      • Ricardo says

        August 21, 2016 at 12:08 pm

        Thanks! I guessed so. Chiang Mai is indeed a cool place to be for all ages.
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        Aug 21, 2016 at 12:08 pm

  114. Baanguru says

    August 11, 2016 at 4:28 pm

    Compare to other Asian countries I still find Thailand cost of living affordable and acceptable. Yes it's cheaper here compare to others. Food is cheaper as well as renting a condo and apartment. I have a bunch of foreign friends who like here in Bangkok because they enjoy a very comfortable life.
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    Aug 11, 2016 at 4:28 pm

  115. Chris S. says

    August 11, 2016 at 7:21 am

    HI All, nice and informative site. I've never been to Thailand however very much wish to do so this...October/November? Am I asking for trouble that time of year? I'm considering Phuket, not knowing much else about the country and not really being interested in Bangkok for now. Is that a "oh such a newbie" place to visit (though I am a newbie)? I'd love to have lots of casual downtime as I've worked to the gills this Spring and Summer (East Coast USA). I'm thinking of 14 days+/- taking 2 full days of travel into account.

    I'm 51, single, love love love Thai cuisine and would like to see both the countryside as well as the beach (and enjoy the water). Nightlife is not a top need however don't want cricket quiet night either and don't mind good nightlife scene.

    I welcome suggestions from this coummunity and thank you in advance.

    Chris / New Hampshire
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    Aug 11, 2016 at 7:21 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      August 11, 2016 at 3:05 pm

      By late October/early November the monsoon rains will be easing and possibly will have stopped, so you should be fine. Phuket has some lovely areas. I have been to Kata, Karon and Kamala. Kamala might be a tad quiet at night for you. I think you will enjoy Kata. It has good dining, a nice beach, some nightlife and generally a good vibe about the area. Patong might be a bit overbearing.
      Reply

      Aug 11, 2016 at 3:05 pm

      • Chris S. says

        August 11, 2016 at 6:31 pm

        Thanks so much for your reply. I apologize for not doing my weather homework before writing the post. It almost seems that I should postpone until December / January even.

        I will check out Kata - thanks again!

        Chris
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        Aug 11, 2016 at 6:31 pm

        • TheThailandLife says

          August 12, 2016 at 1:14 am

          No worries. I think you'll be okay with the weather. The rain will be tailing off then. Though Dec/Jan is preferable.
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          Aug 12, 2016 at 1:14 am

    • Emma says

      October 12, 2016 at 12:49 pm

      Hi Chris,

      Wondering if u still plan to travel to Thialand and if u might want a travel buddy. I am 34yo F lives on the west coast Canada. I want to travel to Thialand but am a little hesitant to go and on my own. l just happen to come across your post and u sound like a decent person so I thought I'd give it a shot and see if u were interested in possibly meeting up in Thialand for a short while you are there. I'm sure I will be OK on my own when u leave it's just i don't want to be alone when I first get there. I know I don't know u from Adam but thought I'd go on a limb and see what comes of it. I hope to hear back from u either way... ok thanks for reading. all the best ☺
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      Oct 12, 2016 at 12:49 pm

      • Jimy says

        October 13, 2016 at 12:00 am

        Hi..I live in Chiang Mai with my wife have been here for six years now. It is a very accomadating place for all types of travellers, to turn up alone and get to your accommadation is an easy task as the taxi price is set for you and tbe operators speak english.
        Price is very reasonable and it is really a safe and freindly atmosphere in CM. Alone with freinds same same. Have fun.
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        Oct 13, 2016 at 12:00 am

        • ham says

          November 20, 2016 at 7:09 pm

          jimy
          Tell me would 45,000 baht be enough to liv ein Chiang Mai for a couple?
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          Nov 20, 2016 at 7:09 pm

  116. Mike says

    August 4, 2016 at 9:36 pm

    I'm a married male 56, my thai wife is here in the US. Been together for 5 years. Thinking about retiring in a year or 2. Current have 400k in 401k and savings account and about 200k in house equity when I sale. I'm hoping to have 500k when I retire at 58. Will get Social Security at 62 of 1600 per month. I'm thinking this is enough, but not sure. Based on what I've read here (thanks for everyones posts) looks like I'll be ok (maybe). Thanks for any thoughts or comments. My plan is to live in Hua Hin not sure of cost of living there, but when I visited I really liked the place. Thai wife plans to work for another 5 or 10 years just to have something to do.
    Reply

    Aug 04, 2016 at 9:36 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      August 7, 2016 at 2:53 am

      Rent is still pretty cheap in Hua Hin. I'd personally advise that over buying. Keep you savings in a high interest account and live off your social security as best you can, while occasionally dipping into your savings when need be. You'll live pretty well. You sound like you're sensible with money anyway, so no worries.
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      Aug 07, 2016 at 2:53 am

      • Mike says

        August 8, 2016 at 7:00 am

        Thanks for the reply. My thought was to rent not buy. I guess my main question is do you think 500k + 200k when I sale my house in the usa is enough for someone 56 years old to retire and live ok. Social security of 1600 per month would come in at 62. I think if I can live off 150k for 5 years then SSS at 62 I think I'd be ok. The is such a head banging decision because once you leave the IT field for a few years you can't get back in. It's difficult, as I don't want to work longer than I have to but I also don't want to run out of money.
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        Aug 08, 2016 at 7:00 am

    • mark bennett says

      November 20, 2016 at 11:13 pm

      DO NOT get your social security early...use your other monies first...after you reach normal 66 your social security will increase every year by 8% until you are 70. if you take social security early(62 starting) you will make much less. think also that when you die the benefits for wife will be much less. remember ..you can not get social security until you are 62. best to wait as long as you can before taking social security. you can not use medicare in thailand. please read the social security benefit charts.
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      Nov 20, 2016 at 11:13 pm

  117. Gary says

    July 26, 2016 at 5:46 pm

    Spot on. As far as money is concerned IMO.
    Here is my experience as a retired guy.

    I came to live here when I was 55. I live on about 1500-1600 U.S. dollars/month.
    I have lived in most cites in Thailand. From the deep south to the extreme north, and in between. I do not have an apartment or a house here. I live in hotels only. For years now.

    When I came over I had some savings. I re-invest the dividends. Today I have 55K U.S. more than I started with. I personally never see my self spending it.
    In the north of Thailand I had trouble spending 30-40K Baht a month. On average I spend most of my retirement check now.

    Was in the south and cut my leg pretty bad with a machete clearing some brush. Total doctor bill was 600 Baht. 8 stitches antibiotics and pain pills included.
    Got food poisoning and had to spend the night in the hospital a few months ago and spent 1500 Baht. Could of had a private room for about 600 Baht more.

    The key is to shop around. I always stay at pretty nice digs. If you have the time and shop the area, you can usually pay about 500-800 Baht a night. I like the street food and usually indulge in a good meal every day. Again shopping around a good meal costs me about 200 Baht.

    I bought a cheap pickup and that is a big expense. I travel allot. But maintenance is dirt cheap to say the least.

    Quality of life here is acceptable if you have a hobby other than drinking and women. I personally do not drink or run the women. Travel, sight seeing, bird photography are my hobby's, and it keeps me from getting bored.

    Women? If you are a single male. There are good women here. It took me a few years to find the right one, but they are here. I pay no money / month and she takes good care of me so far.

    That being said I know MANY guys that spend a fortune here. With a mediocre to poor quality of life. IMO anyway.

    Bangkok is a tough place for me to hang my hat. Pollution, traffic, is awful. If you are working there then it is another story. Honestly if you are working age then I would never come to Thailand, unless forced to!

    Presently I keep a home in America and give it away free to an old girlfriend of mine, she pays the taxes. Works great.
    Bottom line is have the funds to take care of yourself, medical care is dirt cheap unless you go to the private hospitals. If really sick go back home!

    After 7 years in Thailand, Cambodia, some Vietnam roaming around. I am in Malaysia now, Penang. I enjoy it. A bit more expensive, but not much. Again shop around. Diesel is dirt cheap.

    If you enjoy eating like I do. Asia is a culinary delight. Great great local dishes to try, and most are delicious.

    Great place to live IMO if you do not drink or do so responsibility at least.

    If retired, boredom is the killer here. Make sure you come here for a year or so to make sure you can handle it. It can get extremely boring if you don't have a good hobby.
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    Jul 26, 2016 at 5:46 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      July 27, 2016 at 3:32 am

      I agree on the pollution and traffic in Bangkok, and it's getting worse too. In my opinion it's great when you're young and single, or a couple without kids, but it's not a great place for a family -- not enough green spaces and fresh air, too many malls, too much air con, too much traffic! But it's super convenient, and that's where the majority of work is and where it's easiest to network and make good friendship groups. Great photos by the way!
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      Jul 27, 2016 at 3:32 am

    • Phillip says

      September 21, 2016 at 11:22 pm

      One of the best descriptions of living in asia I have read well done gary
      Reply

      Sep 21, 2016 at 11:22 pm

    • Pete says

      September 22, 2016 at 8:31 am

      Thinking of moving to Thailand, I'm single and would like to find a nice Thai lady, not a BG. But the idea of renting her on a monthly basis seems a bit odd and demeaning to me. Could use some advice on this subject.

      Could use a few recommendations on cities where a farang is welcome with minimal hassles. I am not a big drinker, and have traveled throughout Asia in my 20’s. I found treat the locals with respect, have fewer problems.
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      Sep 22, 2016 at 8:31 am

  118. ibanez_ang says

    July 18, 2016 at 10:58 am

    Hi I'm expecting USD 3000 gross salary to live in Bangkok. Is it a good salary for me, my wife and my 2 years old daughter? And is it possible to get 2 bed room apartment & to save more than $ 700/month with that salary?

    Thanks in advance. :)
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    Jul 18, 2016 at 10:58 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      July 18, 2016 at 12:58 pm

      The salary is enough for the 3 of you, but saving $700 is a bit unrealistic if you want to live in a 2-bed centrally with good access to the BTS and MRT services.
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      Jul 18, 2016 at 12:58 pm

      • ibanez_ang says

        July 18, 2016 at 5:48 pm

        Really fast response awesome! How much money do you think I can save if we cook our meals everyday?
        Reply

        Jul 18, 2016 at 5:48 pm

        • TheThailandLife says

          July 19, 2016 at 2:28 pm

          Cooking at home saves a lot of money, especially if you shop smart and learn which supermarkets have the best deals on which products. You can buy fruit and veg locally from markets too, depending on where you live. There's 3 of you, so let's say eating out costs you 500-1000 Baht a time. You might do this 3 times a week; so you could save 200-300 USD maybe. Perhaps just eat out once on the weekend as a treat.

          The price of food in Thailand really does depend on your diet; what you like to eat and the standard of food you are used to. Some people eat for 200 Baht a day, others need 1,000 Baht to get their fill.
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          Jul 19, 2016 at 2:28 pm

          • ibanez_ang says

            July 19, 2016 at 2:45 pm

            Very useful insight!! Thank you very much. I will use your input to review the offer that I got. :)
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            Jul 19, 2016 at 2:45 pm

          • ham says

            November 20, 2016 at 7:15 pm

            TTl

            So what I read is if we cook at home we can spend 1500 -2000 baht a week!
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            Nov 20, 2016 at 7:15 pm

            • TheThailandLife says

              November 21, 2016 at 4:48 pm

              Yes, I don't see why not.
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              Nov 21, 2016 at 4:48 pm

      • suresh says

        August 23, 2016 at 9:11 pm

        Hi I have an offer of USD 3000 gross salary to live in Bangkok with company family accomedation with medical insurance and transportation. Is it a good salary for me,we are three members my wife and my 1 years old son. my living style is very normal iam from indian earning 70000/month INR with 8 years exp as Electrical engineer currently and how much i can save per month and is it correctly salary offered? Please suggest
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        Aug 23, 2016 at 9:11 pm

        • TheThailandLife says

          August 24, 2016 at 2:29 am

          That is nearly 2,000 USD more than your current salary. I'd bite their hands off!
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          Aug 24, 2016 at 2:29 am

  119. Jon says

    July 10, 2016 at 1:49 pm

    Hi i plan to relocate to the buriram area of thailand after being made rudundant,can you tell me approximately how much i would need to live on a month,i plan to spend about 8,000 baht a month on rent,also can you tell me if i can live in thailand on a tourist visa which i can renew every 3 months ? Thank you..
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    Jul 10, 2016 at 1:49 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      July 10, 2016 at 2:57 pm

      You could probably live on 30k a month there; many teachers do. But personally I think 50-75k a month would provide a far more attractive standard of living, allowing for eating better, possibly renting a car, and some travel. The best tourist visa you can get is a multiple entry 6-month tourist visa that requires you to leave the country every 60 days. Once the 6 months of the visa has expired, you will need to go out of the country and apply for a new one at a Thai consulate/embassy elsewhere.
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      Jul 10, 2016 at 2:57 pm

  120. Rick says

    July 7, 2016 at 9:06 pm

    Hi, my wife and I will be moving out in the summer to Bangkok and will have around 85,000THB a month to live on between us. In your opinion could we have a good standard of live on this? Our apartment, gym and medical costs are all taken care of and are part of our package so the 85,000THB would be for food, entertainment etc

    Thanks - great blog BTW
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    Jul 07, 2016 at 9:06 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      July 9, 2016 at 3:50 am

      Hey Rick, absolutely. You have the main expense of accommodation covered, so it's just food and socialising. I'm not sure what kind of lifestyle you lead, but I'd imagine that 50k will cover this adequately -- buying good food from a supermarket and eating out a couple of days a week + a night out on the weekend.
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      Jul 09, 2016 at 3:50 am

      • Rick says

        July 9, 2016 at 4:53 am

        Thanks for the info. Sounds great and can't wait for the move. It's encouraging to know that we will be comfortable on that. We're not party animals but would like to go out Friday and Saturday night with friends for drinks. Other than that, we will just lead a normal life of meals in the week and saving for our travels whenever we get free time
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        Jul 09, 2016 at 4:53 am

  121. Andrea Schmidt says

    July 4, 2016 at 2:37 am

    Hi,

    I would like to say great blog! Amazing info. I'm looking at spending one to three months there and not sure where to start. I'm Canadian and I'm looking for a mental break to travel, enjoy beaches and eat good food. I don't drink but smoke trees occasionally. I have saved up 8k Canadian and am looking for the cheapest available way as I am not sure how long I want to spend there. I don't require much for living as I am sure I just want to spend most days hitting the beaches and going to all the sites on other islands near by.
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    Jul 04, 2016 at 2:37 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      July 9, 2016 at 2:29 pm

      Hi Andrea, if you went for 2 months you'd have 120k Thai Baht per month, which is more than enough for one person. On this amount you could do some traveling to neighboring countries like Laos and Cambodia too. Aim for accommodation for around 1000 Baht per night. Spend 1,000 Baht on food per day, and 1,000 on trips on socialising. Throw in the occasional trip with the remainder and you'll still have change. People do travelling on a lot less than this too!
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      Jul 09, 2016 at 2:29 pm

  122. Mr A says

    June 22, 2016 at 6:37 pm

    I have got a job offer on Bangkok for USD 5000 before taxes. We are a family of 2 adults and 3 children in school age all of them. We live an average life and I wonder if this will be sufficient ?
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    Jun 22, 2016 at 6:37 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      June 23, 2016 at 12:46 pm

      It should be enough, but really depends on what area you live in, your living expectations and what school you send the children to. The top private school fees are very expensive in Bangkok. You're probably going to want to live centrally, and have a bedroom for each of your children – or perhaps 2 will share a room. A 3-4 bed apartment will set you back 75k+ minimum (Approx $13,000 a year). Private school fees range from 100k-300k a term (3 terms a year) depending on what school you choose. Even if you choose a lower cost private school at 100k per term per child, for 3 kids that will set you back approx $13,000 a year. Then factor in medical insurance, life insurance, food, socialising, holidays, etc. Based on the above, throwing in a rough estimation on the aforementioned stuff, I'd say you'd be able to save about 5-10k (USD) a year in the bank.
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      Jun 23, 2016 at 12:46 pm

  123. sam says

    June 20, 2016 at 1:58 pm

    I live in Pattaya for three years straight, but overall about 6 years now. You can rent a floor in a three story shop house for 6 thousand bhat, less than 200 hundred dollars now and there are lots available. You can eat a healthy Thai dinner for about 2 dollars. Coffee shops charge about 1.20 per cup but you can make your own for alot less. You can buy meat at the marketplace per kilo alot less and have your girl friend cook. You can find a nice girl for about 10,000 bhat a month (she has bills to pay too) and hang out forever. Or go to the beach. Or start a family. Or whatever. If you move up country you can teach school or write, or program or photography etc. Rent up country might cost 100 dollars a month but it's HOT in the summer. You can go to the islands and rent for about 100 dollars a month if you're cheap. It's easy to be frugal here and still have a life. All told, you can make it on less than 12,000 a year here and almost be middle class. Bangkok is a different story but who needs it unless you are culturally active or student or something.
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    Jun 20, 2016 at 1:58 pm

    • Patrick says

      June 21, 2016 at 2:36 am

      Hi Sam Can you explain what you mean by "rent a floor in a 3 storey shop house". At the moment my partner and I are planning to retire to Thailand end of July. Want to be in the Pattaya/ Jomtein area. Look forward to hearing from you.
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      Jun 21, 2016 at 2:36 am

  124. Plum9195 says

    June 6, 2016 at 7:01 pm

    What a great source of up-to-date information. Can you give me 3-4 of the best (and I realize best does not always equal most expensive) international schools in Bangkok? We are from the USA but have been living in China for 2 years, possible job offer in Bangkok. International School is one of the biggest expenses. Based on where the children go to school, that would dictate where we would want to live I imagine (to be close to school), would you agree? We would want to be live near other families so our children can have friends to play with easily after school and on weekends. Our children are in 5 and 7th grade. Also, do you have a estimate cost for 3 bedroom, Western / Modern apt near the expat school area? What are the names of these areas so I can tell the rental agents that is where I am wanting to look? Thank you in advance.
    Reply

    Jun 06, 2016 at 7:01 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      June 7, 2016 at 11:19 am

      There is no "expat school area" as such. In fact, the schools are plastered all around the city, with many quite far out of the centre. I only have experience with one school and that's The Regent's International School, Bangkok. My daughter attends this school and we've been pleased with the environment so far. They have 2 and 3 bedroom houses for rent opposite the school too. I was shown around at the start of term and the price was 40 or 50k per month, if I remember correctly. You can read more about the school here: http://www.regents.ac.th/. I've also heard good things about Bangkok Pattana, though location wise it's a bit of a pain to get to -- unless you choose to live close by of course: https://www.patana.ac.th/. Then there's Harrow too: http://www.harrowschool.ac.th/, and Wells, http://www.wells-school.com/.That said, many schools operate mini-buses for the children, so you may not have to be concerned about transport.If you want to be near other parents in the same situation, e.g. husband based in BKK for work, with wife and 2 kids living a middle-class lifestyle, I'd say look around Phrom Pong, Pleon Chit, Ekkamai, Thong Lor areas. This is nice and central and they'll be school options around here too.Bear in mind the aforementioned are expensive schools in the upper price range. There are plenty of other mid-priced options. Like you said, expensive doesn't always equate to best. Moreover, as parents we know that no matter the school, a good education has to be continued/reinforced at home too. Hope this helps.
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      Jun 07, 2016 at 11:19 am

  125. john says

    June 4, 2016 at 11:26 am

    Hi, I have a job offer of 110000 baht/month in Bangkok(Patumwan). Can you help me to find out how much tax would get deducted? Also, we are 2 people to be there, so how much I can save? I do prefer middle-class life standard.


    Thanks
    Reply

    Jun 04, 2016 at 11:26 am

  126. Andy says

    June 2, 2016 at 8:56 pm

    Hi, Im interested in taking a sabbatical year in Thailand, Im planning on basing in Bangkok most probably the Ekkami area. Im planning on using my time there to refine my forex trading, improve my golf game, take up muay thai and meeting some of the lovely locals.
    A couple of questions -
    1. Did you find it hard dealing with any stigma from friends/colleagues/family?
    2. Are yearly memberships available from golf clubs, if not whats the cheapest way to play in Bangkok regularly?

    Thanks
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    Jun 02, 2016 at 8:56 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      June 7, 2016 at 12:38 pm

      Hi Andy,When I first decided to move to Thailand I did of course get a lot of silly comments about "ladyboys", but by and large people were really happy for me that I was making such a bold decision in my life and doing something they'd never have the confidence to do. Some thought I was mad, especially since I had a great job that I quit without a second thought, and no real plan. But it was by far the best decision I ever made and a necessary one at that.People will always be judgmental, but let them remain consumed by their prejudices and ignorance; it's not a happy place to be.I don't know a great deal about the golf scene in Bangkok, but I have been to a few driving ranges, like this one.There's a handful of courses pretty close to the centre, such as Royal Dusit Golf Club, Bangna Navy Golf course and Krungthep Kreetha Sports Club. Prices range from $15 - $80 a round depending on the course. If you go up country to somewhere like Khon Kaen for the weekend, you'll find some lovely courses up there. Also check out Hua Hin.
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      Jun 07, 2016 at 12:38 pm

    • Damien says

      March 13, 2017 at 8:53 pm

      There is a driving range believe it or not in the general Ekkamai area (?).
      No clue as to costs.Good area for condos. Thong Lor,Ekkamai, On Nut & Udom suk, vaguely central but far enough away. On Nut has an abundance of things that a farang would want or need.BTS generally empties at that stop, -> Bearing terminus.B12000/mth & up (1 bed)
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      Mar 13, 2017 at 8:53 pm

  127. Ganesh says

    May 30, 2016 at 11:58 am

    Hello all

    i will be moving to Pattaya in the coming months and my work place will be chonburi) wife and 5 yrs daughter also shifted in the coming months .

    can any send me some excel sheet towards monthly expenses

    is there any .indian schools ?

    how about the tax it will be deducted while salary transfer . how it works
    for sure i am i under the tax payaer category

    thanks
    Reply

    May 30, 2016 at 11:58 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      May 31, 2016 at 10:29 pm

      Hi Ganesh, not heard of any Indian schools; though it's always better to integrate in my opinion. There are plenty of international school options. Tax will be deducted at local rates; expect to pay 20-30% depending on your salary.
      Reply

      May 31, 2016 at 10:29 pm

  128. AC says

    May 30, 2016 at 10:18 am

    I am in the process of moving to Bangkok.

    Areas I would like to live would be the near BTS Onnut to Bearing.

    I was in Bangkok 2 weeks ago to open a bank account as a requirement would be to park Baht800K in a bank account for at least 2 months before I can even apply for the retirement visa.

    My question is quite simple.

    Would I be able to survive on a maximun of Baht35K per month ?

    This is a question many readers ask.


    My requirements are the following, do you think the charges are reasonable for each item ?

    a) Rental - a studio is adequate, but must be walking distant to BTS.
    (Prefer Onnut to Bearing)
    Baht 10,000?

    b) Utilities - need aircon, but I am not those homely type so will be out most days, 7 days a week.
    Baht 2000?

    c) Food / Toiletries / Household items- prefer Asian food, will probably shop at Tesco or Big C. (I like to cook)
    Baht 5000 per month ?

    d) Language School .
    I will attend a school for the first year.
    I went to check Duke Language School, and got a trial lesson.
    Will cost me Baht26-28K per annum.
    Baht 2500 per month ?

    e) Transportation - Rabbit Trip 50trips - Baht 1000.
    Do they still have this ?
    Bant2000 per month.

    f) Fitness/Gym .
    Checkout WE Fitness at Ekkamai.
    Current promotion was Baht26000 per 12months plus 3 months Free. Average Baht 2000 per month.

    g) Entertainment / Massage / Others
    I am a avid movie person, I can watch 3 -4 movies a month.
    I also love foot massage.
    I do not drink alcohol or sup-bu-rii.
    Baht 3000 ?

    h) Others - insurance - Unknown ??

    i) Retirement Visa Renewal + Entry Permit - Baht 4K per annum.

    When I work this out my fixed outlay per month is less than Baht 30K.

    The only unknown is the INSURANCE part. What is this cost ?
    Reply

    May 30, 2016 at 10:18 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      May 31, 2016 at 10:37 pm

      Yes, it is possible to live on that amount.A. You could find a modern studio in that area for 10k, no problem. A friend of mine just rented one for 7.5k B. Utilities = yes, 2k no problem. C. Double this. 166 Baht a day on food and stuff for the home is very low. D. Okay, so you know the price already. E. Not sure on Rabbit - I use Carrot rewards. F. Good gym, good price. G. Defo. Massage 200 Baht +100 Baht tip -- 300 Baht / 1 per week = 1,200 a month. Throw in 3 movies, comes under 2,500. H. Medical insurance 5,000 a month for a decent one. I. Retirement visa - 90-day reporting means you don't have to leave the country. If you want to, get a re-entry permit for 1,000 Baht.All the best!
      Reply

      May 31, 2016 at 10:37 pm

  129. Brad says

    May 29, 2016 at 7:20 pm

    Hi,
    My wife and I are a couple years away from retirement, but have begun researching Thailand cost of living. I will be in my early 50s and she in her late 40s. We expect to bring in around $4,500/month USD. Do you think that would be a sufficient amount for all the living expenses plus the unseen costs that are always there like getting money transferred from the US or health/dental expenses?

    Thanks
    Reply

    May 29, 2016 at 7:20 pm

  130. Samuel F Hartsock says

    May 27, 2016 at 5:44 am

    I really enjoyed your blog as well. This information is helpful. I am a retired veteran of US military. My income is 2,900 USD. I would like to live near nice beaches and plenty of social activities to choose from. Id like a wuiet neighborhood but not too far from the social scene. I am single with no kids and interested in dating. I would be eating out often.

    Can I comfortably live on 2,000 a month in Koh Samui or Phuket? Id like to cut my cost of living by 1,000 dollars or more.

    Which island would you reccomend? I was thinking Phuket. Kamala beach looks nice.

    Can I get a retirement visa even though Im not 50?

    Is there any other info for my specific situation that you could provide for me?

    Thanks a bunch!
    Reply

    May 27, 2016 at 5:44 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      May 27, 2016 at 5:58 pm

      $2,000 will be enough for a single guy. You could live nicely in Koh Samui on that amount. Kamala is nice but quiet. I'd recommend the Bophut area of Koh Samui. It's a nice location with local shops and bars, but also not too far from Chaweng. Remember though that on an island you will need a moped or car to get around.You can't get the retirement visa under 50 years old. One option for a longer term visa would be to enroll for a Thai language course and apply for a one year education visa.
      Reply

      May 27, 2016 at 5:58 pm

  131. Maile says

    May 25, 2016 at 3:54 am

    Hi there! The boyfriend and I are inspring to sell all of our unnecessary possessions here in the US and move out of country. Thailand has been calling to me and I was curious from your insight what pointers you could give me as far as to how much money would suffice for the two of us to live there a year. Are there any job opportunities for people under 30? I would like to bring as much savings with me as possible but would also like to become apart of where i live. Neither of us have traveled out of country before so the visas and all of that is still very new to me. Granted we are still researching and this endeavor won't be sought out until due time but this something we both want to do at a young age and not get stuck here without seeing at least some of the world. Any pointers or information would be most appreciated! Thank you!!
    Reply

    May 25, 2016 at 3:54 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      May 26, 2016 at 12:46 pm

      Hi Maile, so a popular route would be for you both to get 6-month multiple entry tourist visas; come out here for a bit, see some of Thailand and the surrounding region and, if you want to stay after that, you could both find jobs teaching (30-35k each a month). This would then involve popping over to Laos or another country to get a Non Imm B visa to be able to work. Your employer would then sort your work permit out for you once back in Thailand. Obviously you will be sharing accommodation, so get a 1-bed place for around 10-15k a month and that will leave you with 45-50k a month for food, travel and socialising. Over time you could look for higher paying jobs, but certainly in the beginning this will be enough to get started.
      Reply

      May 26, 2016 at 12:46 pm

      • Maile says

        May 27, 2016 at 3:10 pm

        Thank you for replying. Your insight is extremely helpful and much appreciated. Not including cost of visas before hand and airfare costs, how much money in US dollars would suffice our staying there for 6months? Living a very moderate lifestyle, enough to enjoy the culture, not the party scene.
        Reply

        May 27, 2016 at 3:10 pm

        • TheThailandLife says

          May 27, 2016 at 5:50 pm

          That's quite a broad question and depends on a few things. Firstly, what city/province would you live in? For example, Bangkok is more expensive than Chiang Mai for accommodation, and Koh Samui more expensive than Bangkok for food. Secondly, do you want a one-bedroom or a studio? With proper kitchen?
          Reply

          May 27, 2016 at 5:50 pm

  132. michelle says

    May 24, 2016 at 10:19 am

    My husband has been offered a great job opportunity in Thailand and we have a 3 year old and 1 year old. It would be in Chanthaburi. I saw that you also had a little one. Was intrested in getting some guidance or a list of things we need to check off for our move. We have never left our home in Miami but are ready to welcome this experience. Any guidance our way would be great. It's a bit overwhelming and not sure where to start. Do you know of any international schools in Chanthaburi? How the hospital is there? Is Chanthaburi a good place for my family?
    Reply

    May 24, 2016 at 10:19 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      May 24, 2016 at 5:07 pm

      Hi Michelle, I have been there and it's a lovely part of the country; great location for beach trips. Not many expats living there though. There are a couple of good hospitals: Bangkok Private Hospital and Siriveg Private Hospital. Not sure about schools I'm afraid. Feel free to fire away regarding your checklist, but off the top of my head:Health insurance / travel insurance, life insurance, vaccinations, factor 50 sun lotion :)
      Reply

      May 24, 2016 at 5:07 pm

      • michelle says

        May 25, 2016 at 5:33 pm

        Also how do taxes work?
        Reply

        May 25, 2016 at 5:33 pm

  133. Boris says

    May 23, 2016 at 5:52 pm

    I think 65000 baht per month for retired couple is far more than enough for very nice life in Thailand.You can find very easy pretty good condo for 6000-10000 baht range on good spot near BTS or MRT!In countryside even much cheaper you can rent decent house with garden!
    With 65000 per month you can live like a "kings"!!!
    Reply

    May 23, 2016 at 5:52 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      May 23, 2016 at 11:09 pm

      It would be a very small condo for a retired couple at that price. For it to be a modern place, it would have to be a studio at the end of the BTS/MRT line, like Punnawithi or Bang Chak. Not the nicest of places.I agree that upcountry you could find something bigger in that price range. Though for a decent 2-bed house in Chiang Mai with all mod cons, and near the city centre, you're still looking at 15k+. Unless they want to live deep South or Northeast...
      Reply

      May 23, 2016 at 11:09 pm

  134. Lilly says

    May 22, 2016 at 2:30 pm

    Thank you for this wonderful post. Your insights are very helpful. I have received a job offer from Bangkok for a monthly salary of 80K THB (gross before taxes) i am a single 27 year old woman. In your opinion , is this a good salary for someome with a Masters degree + 4 years experience in Business Dev?
    Reply

    May 22, 2016 at 2:30 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      May 22, 2016 at 11:13 pm

      Yes, that is a good salary in BKK and about right for the position. I know someone with similar credentials who earns a little more than that in a business development role.
      Reply

      May 22, 2016 at 11:13 pm

  135. Phil says

    May 21, 2016 at 3:36 am

    My wife and I have 65000 bahts per month pension and $30,000 in cash. We are not high rollers. Truthfully will we do ok in Thailand? We have friends who have retired there but with considerable more asset than we have. They love it but money is no to them.
    Reply

    May 21, 2016 at 3:36 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      May 23, 2016 at 5:12 pm

      I think it's possible to live on this amount, but you'll need to factor in health insurance and perhaps life insurance too. You'll need 800k Baht each for a retirement visa too (kept inside a Thai bank account) – which is more than the savings you have. If you can find a 1-bedroom condo to rent under 20,000 Baht, perhaps somewhere like Chiang Mai, you'd have 750 Baht each to spend per day. Wouldn't you want to run a car too though? And what about holidays inside Thailand as a treat now and again?
      Reply

      May 23, 2016 at 5:12 pm

      • Bob says

        May 23, 2016 at 5:23 pm

        The visa could be sorted by using the 65,000 Baht income plus the 30k. Or, it may be possible to stagger the extensions of stay by, say six months.

        800k in one account for three months apply for one extension. Move the 800k to another account and apply for the second extension.
        Reply

        May 23, 2016 at 5:23 pm

    • Bob says

      May 23, 2016 at 5:20 pm

      It is doable. As you are retired, I suggest that you take a three month holiday in Thailand to see if it fits the bill.

      Long term you will need to consider what visa arrangement will work best for you, and how you will pay for medical and possibly nursing home costs.
      Reply

      May 23, 2016 at 5:20 pm

  136. John says

    May 18, 2016 at 1:36 pm

    Hi, I am from India. I am have been interviewed for Software engineer position in Patumwan, Bangkok location. As I have to give my salary expectation, could you help to find a cost of living for 2 people (me and my wife)? I am the only earning person.
    Reply

    May 18, 2016 at 1:36 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      May 19, 2016 at 11:42 am

      This depends on your experience and the company. I know developers on 25k, 30k, 50k and 75k. If you have 3+ years experience I reckon you should ask for at least 50k. It really depends what your living standard expectations are too. Do you have an amount you are prepared to spend on rent in mind?
      Reply

      May 19, 2016 at 11:42 am

      • John says

        May 19, 2016 at 1:17 pm

        Hi, I have 4+ years of experience. I am not sure about the rents and where should I rent the apartment but I think 10k to 15k max 20k. Is it possible to get a good place nearby Patumwan in this budget(or 30 to 40 min travel distance)? I am looking for middle class living standard.
        Reply

        May 19, 2016 at 1:17 pm

  137. rick says

    May 17, 2016 at 8:15 pm

    hi bob! love th blog and info! could you tell me what my costs would b for a single canadian wanting to live near/in pattaya for 6mo/yr. i dont smoke, drink on occasion(1-2 times a week) prefer to workout myself rather than a gym. as far as entertainment, would it b better to "rent" rather than find a local and get involved? also should i own or just rent a place. beachfront is nice but, not necessary. thx
    Reply

    May 17, 2016 at 8:15 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      May 19, 2016 at 11:51 am

      Hey Rick, it depends how flash you want your condo to be. Let's say you rent a nice 1-bed pad for 25k near the beach, you spend 500 Baht a day on food, 2.5k on socialising a week, plus allow 5k for other unexpected expenses, that comes to 55k. Don't forget to factor in health insurance, pension payments and any other existing monthly payment plans.In terms of female company, I don't think many foreign men living in Pattaya actually date locals, but rather women who've come from other parts of the country to work there. Most are "renting" though, I would assume. Personally I think it's not a good idea to get involved in a relationship too quickly. Have fun, sure, but if you plan to stay long term then learn about the culture outside of the tourism industry and learn the language.
      Reply

      May 19, 2016 at 11:51 am

      • rick says

        May 27, 2016 at 4:42 am

        ok. thanks
        Reply

        May 27, 2016 at 4:42 am

  138. Andy says

    May 16, 2016 at 6:12 am

    Hi
    have just spent about 30 minutes reading your blog and others comments on here
    very interesting, great help and information very well done !!

    the following should happen within the next 2 or 3 years as i hope to retire at 55

    a couple of questions you may be able to help me out with..
    i have about £300,000 English pounds and would like to do the following

    invest £175,000 over here in England in a long term interest account which will get me at the moment about 5% so £8750.00 per year
    plus my state pension in few years time approx £7000.00 per year
    plus other income £ 5,000 a year
    do you think this would be enough for all running costs, entertainment etc to live in Thailand with

    i would be keeping 1,000,000 THB in a Thai account to help with the visa thing etc

    the other £175,000 (8,750,000 THB)i would like to purchase a piece of land about 15 mins outside Pattaya and build a villa to retire into (i know about having it in Thai business name etc)

    have looked at some websites and see building cost of about 20,000 -25,000 THB per square meter etc
    is this fairly accurate price for a decent build as the plans i have drawn up so far for my property would be just over 300 square meters
    also have read that best to get an independent "site manager" to keep an eye on the Thai builders to stop them flogging decent stuff and replacing with cheaper stuff etc

    Or would i be safer buying a 3/4 bed property on 1200-1600 sq ft and extending if needed (doesn't seem as much fun)

    I would be staying nearby while my property was built so would be on hand nearly every day

    I am single and would probably want to play golf once or twice a week and go out locally ( into Pattaya or jomtien ) twice a week, love the simple easy life, staying in laying round the pool and gardening, might buy a half decent car to get to golf and the supermarkets as hate the taxi bikes and cant ride a moped but love to walk locally and use the baht bus

    i have been to Thailand about 8 or 9 times and love the place, the culture, everything actually !

    Footnote....
    how the hell do i overcome my absolute fear of frogs/toads etc as ive seen some big bastards out there !

    don't mind the snakes, lizards, etc though

    Thanks in anticipation

    Andy
    Reply

    May 16, 2016 at 6:12 am

    • Bob says

      May 16, 2016 at 12:01 pm

      Interested in knowing where you get 5% interest. That level of income generally disappeared about a decade ago.

      You should recheck your figures.

      175,000 in a UK account
      175,000 to build a house
      20,000 in THB account

      Totals 370,000 not the 300,000 Quid you stated.

      A half decent car will cost another 12,000 Quid.

      The building costs are a little on the high side, probably what a company will charge to do the job. Buying materials yourself and supervising the work will bring the price down to around 14-18,000 /m2.

      Pools are a real pain. Constant maintenance and they attract snakes, frogs, leaves and can turn green overnight.

      Golf will cost you 40 Quid/round. 2 rounds/week = 4,000 Quid/year.

      Women will also cost 40 Quid/round unless you move one in, and then the cost goes down to about 5,000 Quid/year based on what I paid before deciding the odd rental arrangement is less hassle and cheaper.

      Just popping into a bar for an evening will cost 20 Quid, Say 3,000 Quid/year for three trips a week.

      Basic costs (food, electricity, insurances, internet, house maintenance) run at about 10,000 Quid/year.
      Reply

      May 16, 2016 at 12:01 pm

    • Andy says

      May 17, 2016 at 1:10 am

      HI many thanks for your quick reply

      Sorry yes my total available is about £350,000 and have found companies over here that will give me 5% interest if tied up for 10 years which is not a problem.

      im hoping the interest rates go up over here so as to get more than that eventually... sorry to upset 90% of people that have mortgages etc over here

      the £20,000 i already have in thai bank account out there. which will just stay in an account to save travelling to much for visa etc

      Thanks for your comments on approx £10,000 a year for running costs
      as a non drinker i could probably knock the price on a night out down a bit and when i go there at the moment im normally out at 8pm and back at hotel by midnight latest, as i said im a boring fart and like the quiet life

      would you in your view/experience as being an expat and i would imaging seeing over the few years you've been there suggest the build new or buy ready built home and some of the pitfalls of either ?

      The pool would probably be a salt water pool which is dearer to build but easier and cheaper to maintain

      I could import one of my cars by container unit i suppose even if it took 6 months to get here it wouldn't matter. rather than sell them over here

      Many Thanks
      Andy
      Reply

      May 17, 2016 at 1:10 am

      • Bob says

        May 17, 2016 at 1:42 pm

        Interest rates are not going to go up substantially in my lifetime, they are still coming down. Too much debt around.

        By building new you will have your own design and save some money. Problem will be finding a decent team to build it. The best way I think is to ask around locally and then inspect work that they have already done. Another positive point is that it will keep you busy for a year or two.

        Buying a ready built house you may end up with substandard materials and build quality.

        Forget the car import. Import taxes can be 200% of the new price and then you have to get it registered. I do not know anybody who has gone down this route. It is possible to "temporarily import a car" and then be subject to border runs. But after a couple of times the immigration guys will refuse to stamp the documents, as clearly the car is being permanently used in Thailand.
        Reply

        May 17, 2016 at 1:42 pm

        • Andy says

          May 18, 2016 at 2:47 am

          Many Thanks for the info about the car import so that's def out
          so looks like building my own home will be of a better quality
          Ill be over in December so will look at purchasing some land in Nong Pla Lai or Nong Prue area through an established estate agent

          Once again many thanks for very helpful blog
          And good luck in the future

          Andy
          Reply

          May 18, 2016 at 2:47 am

          • Bob says

            May 18, 2016 at 10:40 am

            "established estate agent".

            Try to avoid those, there are a lot of wide boys in that crowd, trying to rip money off the newbies. Just hire a bike, ride around and have a meal or two at a local restaurant. Casually say you are interested in buying land and generally the locals will know what's for sale.

            ddproperty is a website which might help,
            Reply

            May 18, 2016 at 10:40 am

            • Andy says

              May 21, 2016 at 4:25 am

              Thanks again
              as i would of thought the locals would of tried to sell me piece of "jungle" rather than an estate agent
              can i check if the land is genuinely for sale by going to local government offices etc ?
              Asking other expats living near to the land i wish to buy etc
              Reply

              May 21, 2016 at 4:25 am

              • Bob says

                May 21, 2016 at 11:02 am

                If someone says the land is for sale, it probably is for sale. That is not the issue.

                You have to make sure that the person selling is the actual owner and has the clear right to sell, has all the documents required, and there is no outstanding other claim on the land.

                Beware the expats. Mostly they are OK, but there are more than a few running an agenda. The problem being that the bad'uns know you will tend to trust them more than you would trust the Thais.

                Get a local lawyer.

                It is a bit of a minefield.

                A lot of people have been successful, but there is a steady stream of people who have been scammed.

                For example, whenever I change a term deposit at the bank, there is a wad of paper in Thai. I always feel a bit concerned about simply signing at the bottom and letting the staff fill in the blanks. With a bank the risk is fairly low you will be scammed by the staff.

                Signing a wad at the land department, "just sign here" when you have no idea what is actually written would be a very fraught experience for me.
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                May 21, 2016 at 11:02 am

                • TheThailandLife says

                  May 24, 2016 at 5:36 pm

                  Absolutely. As I pointed out, you need to make sure the owner is in full possession of the Chanote and it isn't with the bank as security for a loan, or worse, with a local debt collector!
                  Reply

                  May 24, 2016 at 5:36 pm

                  • Andy says

                    June 2, 2016 at 12:26 am

                    thats agreat help
                    thank you again
                    ive heard that build costs are worked out by deepest by longest eg 25m wide and 15m deep would be 375 sq M
                    even though the building itself would not be " square" or is it done by actual floor size not square footprint
                    Reply

                    Jun 02, 2016 at 12:26 am

  139. Therese says

    May 13, 2016 at 1:24 am

    Hello,
    For job in BKK I got following offer
    Monthly salary gross USD 4850
    House allowance USD 800 maximum
    Utilities bills USD 150 maximum
    Health insurance USD 200 maximum

    Questions
    -Is income tax 25 or 30%?
    Annual income would be USD 58200/ THB 2.056.467,=
    Income tax THB 1.000.001 - THB 2.000.000 25%
    Income tax THB 2.000.001- THB 4.000.000 30%
    - I'm single female. Is this a reasonable salary and possible to rent a 2 or 3 bedroom apartment with swimming pool on complex
    - Will it be enough to also go out in weekends and hit the beach near BKK

    THANK you in advance for your reply
    Reply

    May 13, 2016 at 1:24 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      May 13, 2016 at 2:05 pm

      You will be living very nicely, but taxed at 30%.Your housing and utility bills allowance should get you a 2-bed with a swimming pool and gym on site. If you add in another 200-300$ you will get somewhere modern near the station. So let's say after tax you earn 3395. You find a place within your allowances, so nothing deducted from the salary there. Let's allow $1000 for food and socialising. Leave you with $2395 in your pocket for beach time and savings :). Happy days.You can get a quote on health insurance from my recommended partner here:https://www.thethailandlife.com/go/img
      Reply

      May 13, 2016 at 2:05 pm

  140. Bob says

    May 13, 2016 at 12:54 am

    You have an interesting website.

    I have lived here for fifteen years and totally agree with the figure of Single male/female in Bangkok – ฿50,000.

    I live out in the provinces, have given up with Thai women, they just annoy me with all the cultural BS. Live comfortably but not extravagantly. I have very accurate records of expenditure and spend around 400,000 Baht a year.

    During the periods that a girl has lived with me, that figure goes up by roughly 20,000 Baht/month or 240,000 / year for food, monthly allowance, additional costs like medical and the odd bung to families out in the rice fields. IMO simply not worth it. The last girl lived with me for a decade, but then her late teenage son came in the picture and I decided not to pay for him to laze around all day.

    You soon know where the priorities lie.

    But the huge expense you have missed in all the calculations is the pension. Yep, it's all very good to earn enough to live on nicely. But what happens when you reach the age you cannot work? Or, indeed, get kicked out?

    I have yet to meet any person under the age of 45 in Thailand who has even considered this. I will tell them all, now, if they bother reading.

    "you are fucked!"

    It is as simple as that.

    To get a retirement visa you need 800,000 in the bank. Better start saving, eh?

    That is not all. It is nowhere near what you need.

    There are no "safe" investments paying inflation plus a bit anymore, and that is here to stay.

    So, for that 50,000 Baht/month you need to live on, you need to save, save and save. Let's look how much.

    Retire at 60 and live for another 20 years.

    At least 12,000,000 Baht has to be saved to fund that. Inflation will hit, medical expenses will hit, and the current immigration rules can change.

    Sorry for the bombshell.

    The only advice I can give is to have a couple of years fun teaching English or diving (neither of which allows you to save) and get your arse back to the West pronto, where you can accrue a secure State pension, a company pension and have a reasonable career.

    Thailand will never, ever, give you any security whatsoever.

    It is all bullshit.
    Reply

    May 13, 2016 at 12:54 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      May 13, 2016 at 1:52 pm

      You raise a massive point, and indeed something overlooked in this post.I was reading the other day that two thirds of people in the UK are not saving enough for retirement. They estimate a person will need a minimum pension pot of 300k (GBP) when they retire.So, yes, winging it in Thailand through your 30s and 40s on a teacher's salary is not a good idea if you don't have savings or a very healthy inheritance coming to you.A state pension is no longer guaranteed either, but still, most people don't realise that you have to pay NI for a minimum 20 or so years to get the full state pension, which isn't much to live on anyway.We are living longer too, which means needing more money. so yes, it's important that anyone taking a job here or moving here for a cheaper life considers what they intend to live on when they hit 50-60.Some young people living in Thailand own a property back home that they rent out. Even if there is still a mortgage on the property this will be a pension/part pension in itself once they retire, if they intend to live in Thailand that is.
      Reply

      May 13, 2016 at 1:52 pm

      • Bob says

        May 13, 2016 at 4:27 pm

        For UK guys the requirement for a State pension is a total of 35 years of NI payments, which will get you about 150 Quid/week, so around 30,000 Baht/month at today's rates. It will pay all the basic living expenses.

        Note that it is also possible to make voluntary contributions when living abroad. If declared as self-employed these are Class 2, and the current ANNUAL payment is just around 140 Quid. This is an absolute bargain and the best investment on the market by far.

        I would STRONGLY recommend paying these as it is unthinkable that the UK government will stop paying the State pension.

        Inheritances are not to be relied on. A huge amount can disappear in care home costs and medical expenses. And parents may not be too impressed if their child gives up a decent career to lounge around on a beach teaching SCUBA until his mid 40's.

        There may be a few youngies around with property in the UK, but it goes against the trend, where kids are living longer at home because the rents are so high, the deposit requirements for a mortgage are very high, and lenders are not lending out so readily.

        Certainly once working in Thailand it will be almost impossible to find a lender to give you a mortgage.

        I posted to sort of set a balance. You are generally very positive and encouraging about the low cost of living. Yep. But I know a lot in the teaching and SCUBA that have "hit the wall" and returned cassa blanco at 40-45 and they have almost no chance of finding a decent career. A couple have moved back in with Mum and Dad. Bet they are pleased, having to support a forty year old.

        "Hi, what have you been doing for the last 20 years?"

        "I taught SCUBA diving in Asia"

        "Ever worked in an office?"

        "No"

        "Sorry, next please"
        Reply

        May 13, 2016 at 4:27 pm

        • TheThailandLife says

          May 13, 2016 at 5:00 pm

          I agree, and while I'm encouraging about the potential of low cost living, I do also tell people that to live well in Thailand and have the foods and creature comforts you have back home isn't that cheap. People are astonished when they hear what I spend, but I have a family and pay extra for comforts for them when traveling and at home, etc.

          Good point about inheritance. I certainly wouldn't hold out for one, though many do. As I said, people are living longer because medicine is advancing and keeping us alive. Care homes are very expensive and it's not uncommon for a person's estate to have to fund this care.

          Fortunately I have always been pretty organised with my finances and have paid my NI contributions and have a pension.

          All solid advice though. I'll think about doing a post around these considerations. Thanks.
          Reply

          May 13, 2016 at 5:00 pm

  141. Amy says

    May 11, 2016 at 7:04 pm

    Thanks so much. I find this blog really helpful.

    I have a question about location in Bangkok? Where is it best to rent a flat? I will be working in a place along North Sathurn Road. I don't want to be so close to work but, at the same time, it would be nice to only have a few stops on the Skytrain or MTR when I'm going out with friends during the weekends or evenings. I am not too fussed if it is not completely "expat-ty" - the location and accomodation has to be right basically.

    What rental costs should I be basing for a condo-apartment (minimum: 65sqm, maximum 95sqm), 2 bedroom, 1 or 2 bathrooms? Swimming pool and gym would be cool but I also want to be realistic and am just as happy to find a condo without pool and gym, as long as the actual apartment and location is good.

    Would you also be able to recommend a couple of trusted rental agents that I could research on?

    Many thanks in advance,
    Amy
    Reply

    May 11, 2016 at 7:04 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      May 11, 2016 at 10:07 pm

      Hi Amy, you could rent in Silom and get somewhere walkable to the MRT there, which would take you into the centre of town in 4 stops. The spec you are after would set you back 40k+ THB a month (2 bed, 1 or 2 bath) if it is walkable to the station. What is your budget?
      Reply

      May 11, 2016 at 10:07 pm

  142. Cana says

    May 10, 2016 at 11:56 am

    We are a retiree couple. How much is rent for a 2 bedrooms condo or apartment in Chiang Mai? We don't need luxury but safety is important. We also don't plan to lease a car so easy access to public transit is another priority.
    Thank you,
    Reply

    May 10, 2016 at 11:56 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      May 10, 2016 at 1:10 pm

      Hi Cana, you'll find something spacious, modern and central for 25-30k a month (around $950). If you go for a slightly older build I reckon you could get something around the 20-23k mark.Public transport in Chiang Mai is the downside. There is no tube/train system like Bangkok, so you'd have to take a tuk tuks, songtaew or motorbike taxi to get around. Transport is widely available, but remember it gets very hot and waiting around or having to walk (depending on where you live) can be uncomfortable during the day.Do you have your eye on any area in particular?
      Reply

      May 10, 2016 at 1:10 pm

  143. Lisa M Lopez Ware says

    April 24, 2016 at 3:30 am

    Hi

    I am planning to move to Phuket in a few years to retire from US. What things should I plan for and what are the best areas? I am planning a visit in November to check things out before making the final decision. I want to be able to access my US funds while there.
    Reply

    Apr 24, 2016 at 3:30 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      April 26, 2016 at 8:44 pm

      Accessing funds is no problem, set up a Thai bank account: see here, and use this service to bring money in. In terms of areas, it really depends what type of lifestyle you want: sea view on the beach; quiet, local vibe; exposure to lost of other expats and bars?
      Reply

      Apr 26, 2016 at 8:44 pm

      • Lisa Ware says

        April 27, 2016 at 6:06 am

        I would like exposure to other expats so I can learn about some of things the will make the move work. I don't have to be on the beach. But I do not want to be in a crowded city such NYC. More suburbs yet with access to lots of stuff to do.
        Reply

        Apr 27, 2016 at 6:06 am

        • Bob says

          May 13, 2016 at 12:19 am

          Lisa, you really need to spend a few months in Thailand before committing to such a move. A month can prove an exhilarating experience.

          Longer term can be hell.

          Problems you will face are loneliness, boredom, yearning for old friends and family, frustration, language and a bunch of others.
          Reply

          May 13, 2016 at 12:19 am

  144. Jason says

    April 22, 2016 at 7:40 am

    Can you post what postal rates cost t osend packages to US?
    Reply

    Apr 22, 2016 at 7:40 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      April 23, 2016 at 1:14 pm

      Good point Jason; I should do a post covering this. I'll add it to my todo list:To the US, standard postal rates (EMS) are as follows:250 grams - 598 Baht 500 grams - 740 Baht 1000 grams - 1040 BahtThis insures the item for 7,000 Baht.
      Reply

      Apr 23, 2016 at 1:14 pm

  145. lynda kay says

    April 20, 2016 at 1:04 pm

    Hi there! Thanks for all the valuable advice! Can you tell me tell me the most popular areas for expat retirees to live? Not wanting the glitzy nightlife, but nice scenery and plenty of social and outdoor interests.
    Reply

    Apr 20, 2016 at 1:04 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      April 20, 2016 at 10:45 pm

      It's hard to say where is most popular, but I guess it's Bangkok, Pattaya, Phuket and Chiang Mai. By the sounds of it, you'd like Chiang Mai: Great scenery, lots of social stuf going on in the expat community - plenty of healthy, yoga, meditation, music, creative, cool stuff - great markets and more. The only problem is you have to take another flight from BKK once you arrive in Thailand. Bangkok also has it all, but the scenery isn't good albeit for a few nice parks. You meet a huge diversity of people here though, and socially it can't be beaten. Phuket and Samui are good for the beach life...
      Reply

      Apr 20, 2016 at 10:45 pm

      • lynda kay says

        May 10, 2016 at 1:01 pm

        Thanks very much, this is such an informative website! X
        Reply

        May 10, 2016 at 1:01 pm

  146. Sumi says

    April 16, 2016 at 4:59 pm

    Hi,
    I'm single women, planning to move to Thiland with a job. After House rent, Utilities, Medical - 20K baht will be enough for me to save and spend on food, commutte and clothings?
    Reply

    Apr 16, 2016 at 4:59 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      April 16, 2016 at 5:10 pm

      Hi Sumi, yes, I think 20k will be enough after paying for those things. There won't be much left over, but it's enough. It also depends on where your are living. Are you moving to Bangkok?
      Reply

      Apr 16, 2016 at 5:10 pm

      • Sumi says

        April 16, 2016 at 5:32 pm

        Yes, I will be if I get the visa thing done.
        Reply

        Apr 16, 2016 at 5:32 pm

  147. Shane says

    April 11, 2016 at 10:11 pm

    Hi
    Awesome blog 1st of all..Great to see someone who spares their own time to help others achieve live living in Thailand and even general questions needing answers for by someone first hand..

    I would like to know if 43 000 Thai baht will be enough for myself and my girlfriend for a 7 day vacation in Phuket..Please take note accommodation and breakfast is already covered..

    Our time will mostly be spent on some tours and then shopping (from her side) haha and just the usual meals and snacks and cocktails and some activities during the day..

    We aren't the party type of people to go to clubs take in mind..

    thanks so much
    Reply

    Apr 11, 2016 at 10:11 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      April 12, 2016 at 12:15 pm

      Hey Shane,So you have around 6,000 Baht a day spending money. This is more than enough to eat, drink and chill out for the 7 days. You'll probably want to hire a moped, which will set you back 250-300 baht or so a day - so factor that in. The tours can be expensive, so choose wisely. For example, a boat trip around the islands will set you back around 1,500-2k each (with a decent boat and not overloaded with passengers), which would leave you just 2.5k left in the budget for that day. That said, a trip like that takes up much of the day, and food is provided. On these types of tours I always pack some of my own snacks like nuts (get them in 7-11) and bananas (steal from hotel breakfast), because I always get hungry.You'll be fine. Just have a couple of total chill out days where you spend only half the budget and then splash out on a couple of tours on two other days.Enjoy!
      Reply

      Apr 12, 2016 at 12:15 pm

  148. Teo says

    April 7, 2016 at 3:15 pm

    Hallo!!! Your article is great and very helpfull so thank you very much about it.You almost answered most of my questions.Im from greece 23 years old and im thinking very seriusly moving in thailand with my girl and maybe some friend.I m a diving Instructor and my girl is a photografer.Some of my friends have studied touristic,managment and this kind of stuff.you think It will be easy for them to find a job? Also as a diving istructor you think that i can earn arround 700euros per month?
    Looking forward for your replay :)
    Reply

    Apr 07, 2016 at 3:15 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      April 7, 2016 at 8:09 pm

      I don't think it will be easy for them to find jobs. Most leisure and tourism jobs are reserved for Thai nationals with good English speaking skills. Yes, as a diving instructor you can expect to earn around this amount 30,000 - 40,000 Baht per month.
      Reply

      Apr 07, 2016 at 8:09 pm

  149. Jummuy says

    April 1, 2016 at 12:20 am

    Thanks for the quick reply. Do u think with 50k baht l and my family will live fine l have 3kids . What is the average fees for international sch for age 6 and 11
    Reply

    Apr 01, 2016 at 12:20 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      April 1, 2016 at 10:44 am

      It depends on your expectations for living standards. For example, in Bangkok, a modern 3 bedroom condo in a central area close to the BTS/MRT will set you back a minimum of 40k. That said, you could get a nice 3-bedroom house in Chiang Mai for 15-20k a month. It really does depend where you live and what you expect from your accommodation. Also consider the type of diet you eat. For my family, food is the biggest spend. I mostly eat at home but buy a lot of organic foods a quite a few western-type foods, which can be expensive. For a family of three living in BKK, I'd say you need at least 100k a month to live to Western standards and have money left over to pay health insurance (though you might get some cover with the job), life insurance, etc, and to put some money away.
      Reply

      Apr 01, 2016 at 10:44 am

    • Bob says

      May 13, 2016 at 12:23 am

      No, you have absolutely no chance of living in Thailand with three kids in an international school for 50k Baht/month.
      Reply

      May 13, 2016 at 12:23 am

  150. Jummy says

    March 31, 2016 at 3:15 am

    l have an offer in Thailand as a lecturer, please how much is the salary of expatriate lecturer in thailand and what other benefit comes with it, with Phd and 10 years of experience in lecturing
    Reply

    Mar 31, 2016 at 3:15 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      March 31, 2016 at 10:32 am

      Hi Jummy, I have no idea but would guess 50k as a start for a foreign lecturer. If you have the offer, surely they gave you an idea of the salary and the benefits package?
      Reply

      Mar 31, 2016 at 10:32 am

  151. Olamide says

    March 28, 2016 at 4:13 pm

    Hi,
    Please I would like to know if I could live brilliantly okay on $200-$300 a month in Siam.
    In Nigeria, I currently live on $120-$200 per months, but i'm hoping to leave here for some reason of challenges, and as regards the awkward vision of the political bodies of the country. (My mind tells me the politicians has nothing good in stock for the citizens).

    I am not extravagant at all, I do not smoke or drink, I do not club unless I just wish to have a little time out.
    I am mainly working as a freelancer, so I was also looking for stable electricity and reliable cheap internet.
    I sometimes eat at a eating joint, cos I can be lazy to cook at time. But I do not eat too much.
    To cap it all, I like an apartment where I have my own bedroom, kitchen, toilet and bathroom for my own convenience.
    Appreciate living in a nice place that is not a slum or too much local. Just for an average independent 24 yo lad.

    Could you please advice on this?
    Reply

    Mar 28, 2016 at 4:13 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      March 28, 2016 at 4:56 pm

      It's possible, but you would be living like an average earning Thai person. I think it would be easier to live on this amount in a more rural area rather than Bangkok, but you'd have to invest in a moped to get around in such an area. I think that if you bumped this amount up to $500 your life would be much better, if you made the move.
      Reply

      Mar 28, 2016 at 4:56 pm

      • Olamide says

        March 31, 2016 at 11:21 pm

        Alright, Thank you
        Reply

        Mar 31, 2016 at 11:21 pm

    • Bob says

      May 13, 2016 at 12:27 am

      You will not be able to live on that amount. No way.

      On top of accommodation and food, you will have visa, medical and other expenses to take care of.

      Also you will not qualify for any long term visa.
      Reply

      May 13, 2016 at 12:27 am

  152. Michael Morgan says

    March 28, 2016 at 4:15 am

    Wow. I find this exceedingly interesting--because I live in PERU. I was thinking about/wondering what expenses might be like in Thailand.
    I've also been doing some careful budgeting lately, to see if I can live on just US $450/month here in Cajamarca (the northern highlands)--and by budgeting, I think I can.
    Here are a few (March, 2016) prices in Cajamarca, Peru for those who might be interested. (US dollars for all prices listed)

    Pasta (250 g) $0.40
    Milk (1 l.) $1.24
    Eggs $0.11 each
    Bar soap $0.58
    Papaya (1/2) $0.67
    Pink Grapefruit $0.48 ea
    Rent (1 bdrm, all utilities) $148.00 (But I probably have a good deal)
    (Private bath, hot water--generally--just a 2-burner little electric stove but hardwood floors throughout. Furnished.)
    Paper Towels (lg. roll) $1.18
    Bus to Banos (to the hot springs) $0.24
    Hot springs (45 min., pvt. room) $1.76
    Mangoes (IN SEASON and off the truck) $0.08
    (Yes, 8 cents for a mango in season)
    Water (l., if you buy a big bottle) $0.36
    Breakfast $3.52 (a grilled sandwich, FRESH juice, and a latte)

    From what I see here, I think I'll stick with Peru. The INTANGIBLES, though, are the hardest part of the equation It is trashy in Peru. It's a cultural thing, I guess. In Cajamarca, it's high (8,600 ft) and breathing isn't all that comfortable and you don't acclimate. It's an INTERESTING country, though.

    So, thank you! I'll read this all again.

    Michael
    Cajamarca, Peru
    Reply

    Mar 28, 2016 at 4:15 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      March 28, 2016 at 10:30 am

      Thanks for this interesting comparison, Michael. It's a great insight to see how Thailand's living expenses stack up to those of Peru, as many people do weigh up the choice of living in Thailand vs. countries like Peru and Mexico.
      Reply

      Mar 28, 2016 at 10:30 am

      • Jeff Smith says

        August 25, 2016 at 2:48 pm

        Mexico is in North America ?
        Reply

        Aug 25, 2016 at 2:48 pm

        • TheThailandLife says

          August 25, 2016 at 2:57 pm

          Indeed. I stand corrected. Thanks for spotting that (amended).
          Reply

          Aug 25, 2016 at 2:57 pm

      • hairs says

        August 26, 2016 at 2:55 am

        Hi I'm from Pakistan I'm in Bangkok now for my holidays I have my gf In Malaysia now I want marry her in Thailand it that possible? ?? Plz reply me
        Reply

        Aug 26, 2016 at 2:55 am

        • TheThailandLife says

          August 28, 2016 at 5:58 pm

          Yes, it is the same process. Please read the post and look through the comments from others who have the same country of origin as you.
          Reply

          Aug 28, 2016 at 5:58 pm

          • Mr Kelly Murphy says

            August 29, 2016 at 8:57 am

            Sorry to butt in here but I was thinking of spending 3 months in Thailand soon and wanted to live close to or on a nice beach. I'd like a quieter place if possible and I want to do it on the cheap as well if possible. In another post you've guessed $1,200USD a month for Bankock and a bit cheaper on the Islands? any advice would be appreciated. Kelly
            Reply

            Aug 29, 2016 at 8:57 am

  153. Buzz says

    March 23, 2016 at 7:11 pm

    Hey there,
    Great read! And lots of lots good questions! Single 35 yr old man here with two boys 16 and 12. No degree just a blue collar guy who is working to survive not thrive here in America.
    How can a person like me get to Thailand enjoy the beach and pretty women? A life where one doesn't work just to pay the next car payment and insurance. What kind of jobs are there for ex oil worker current truck driver?
    Answer me this my friends and I'll buy you the next round of beers;-)
    Seriously I'd love to show my kids a new way of life.
    Reply

    Mar 23, 2016 at 7:11 pm

  154. Ashwin says

    March 9, 2016 at 4:52 pm

    Hi, I have applied for a job in Bangkok and they are asking me my pay expectations. I read through your post but still struggling to provide them a figure. I am married and have two kids age 7 each. I am living in India and my current monthly expense is around $1500 with some savings. Can you help me come up with a figure to quote them. This $1500 includes rent for 2 Bed Room flat, grocery, utility bills, car fuel, school fees, eating out, drinks, insurance, occasional shopping and cash savings.
    Reply

    Mar 09, 2016 at 4:52 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      March 11, 2016 at 3:41 pm

      It really depends on the type of job it is. It's hard for me to say what they should be paying if I don't know the position and the experience required. Also, your expenses will depend on where you are living and your living standard expectations. Consider that international schools here are expensive, unless they are paying a contribution towards this? Also, are they offering a housing allowance too?
      Reply

      Mar 11, 2016 at 3:41 pm

  155. Fleschy Caro says

    March 8, 2016 at 4:15 am

    Hello here!

    So there are tons of blog posts out there and this blog happens to be one of the most recent ones, and from what I see it seems to be very accurate. Thank you so much for all the info!!

    I have always wanted to move to Thailand and work… I like the idea of being able to travel around Asia; I feel that once you are there it’s easier to travel around.
    I know the most “doable” option will be to Teach English, do you know if there are any other options?
    I am currently working as a marketing coordinator. I enjoy writing, communications, and PR.

    If not, what would be the best route to find a good teaching job?
    I have read it’s better if you have a bachelor’s degree (which I have) and if you take a TEFL or TESOL course and obtain a certificate, correct?
    Is there a company you would recommend, my biggest fear is to get scammed….

    How easy would be to do this with my boyfriend? If we both live together do you think it would be possible to save something?
    I know it may seem unrealistic.
    But being honest I don’t think I would do this for more than 2 years. I’m not sure how contracts work there, but I would believe schools get very skeptical with all the expats teaching and suddenly leaving….

    Well, any information you have will be truly appreciated!

    Thanks ☺
    Reply

    Mar 08, 2016 at 4:15 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      March 8, 2016 at 10:12 pm

      Hey Fleschy, there are other options but they will usually be based in Bangkok and take some hard work to find. You can check out the job board in this site for jobs each week. Also, most jobs will require you to be in Bangkok. At least with teaching you can do 6 months in one place and then move on. If you and your BF both taught you could make around 70k a month, plus private work if you take it on.If you can write, why not try freelancing while you travel?
      Reply

      Mar 08, 2016 at 10:12 pm

  156. Cheyenne says

    February 9, 2016 at 4:00 am

    Hello,
    First of all, I am an art teacher in Ohio, looking into teaching English in Thailand. I was so excited to find your blog because it is really helping me feel like this whole thing is possible! Thank you!

    Anyway...The program I am looking into right now (UniTEFL/GoTEFL) says I would be teaching/living in a provincial school/area, making $1000/month with a package of about the same amount, inclusive of housing and insurance.
    Do you have any tips about this program or about living in a "provincial area"? If they are giving me a package worth about $1000 in housing and insurance, does that mean I will be living in a safe, and decent area? What are provincial places outside of the bigger cities like?

    Also, my boyfriend is interested in coming with me as well. He has work experience with animals and home construction/remodeling. Would it be difficult for him to find decent work without a college degree? How much does a work visa cost?
    Reply

    Feb 09, 2016 at 4:00 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      February 9, 2016 at 11:30 am

      It really does depend on what provincial area you are talking about. By that I mean how remote is the area? Provincial tends to refer to anywhere outside of Bangkok, typically rural. Cities in provinces like Khon Kaen, Udon Thani and Chiang Mai are great places to live with lots going on, but then there are others where you might be very bored – though the local, slow pace of life might suit you for a while and would certainly be an exploration in culture.If your housing is included that's a big bonus. For $1000 a month outside of Bangkok (minus insurance, so let's say the housing allocation is $700), I'd expect a very nice one or two-bedroom apartment, with full kitchen. I'd also expect the block to have a pool and a gym.Your boyfriend could find teaching work if he did the TEFL like you.
      Reply

      Feb 09, 2016 at 11:30 am

    • Mac says

      February 10, 2016 at 6:16 am

      A related follow up question: what is best for incoming expats-rent or buy a condo in Thailand?
      Reply

      Feb 10, 2016 at 6:16 am

      • TheThailandLife says

        February 10, 2016 at 1:06 pm

        I would say definitely to rent. Renting is generally very cheap, depending on course on the area and your requirements. Also consider that you may want to move to another part of the country at some point, in which case buying will restrict you – because you will have the hassle of renting out the place you own and managing tenants. Unless you can afford to keep the place empty, or pay an estate agent a fee to manage the property in your absence.
        Reply

        Feb 10, 2016 at 1:06 pm

        • Leo says

          May 28, 2016 at 11:42 pm

          yes..i think best would be rent whilst in Thailand. Buying property make you stuck there in a way..In my case, i already living as expat in Norway but i consider moving To thailand when i retire.In mean time i want to travel there every year and see different part of country..Thanks for the very useful tips for living in Thailand
          Reply

          May 28, 2016 at 11:42 pm

  157. Boris says

    February 7, 2016 at 11:51 am

    I think that is really crazy to come and live in Thailand and spend 80.000 baht per month or more per month!!!Come here to eat western food???Go to Thailand to live like in UK???
    Why you come here than????You should stay in your country cos that is less expensive there!
    Rent is very cheap here if you avoid very expensive areas like Silom,some Soi in Sukhumwit!!! Very nice condo or house you can find less than 10.000 baht!
    For food for one person 250 baht per day is more than enough(domestic food).
    Transportation is very cheap as well!!!Single man or women can live very good for 20.000 baht per month!!!
    Reply

    Feb 07, 2016 at 11:51 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      February 9, 2016 at 11:35 am

      I agree that it is a little crazy to come to live in Thailand and spend the same you would back home on living expenses, since most people come here to live a more simple life and reduce their living costs. But on the other side of the spectrum are those who move here with a job allocation; think NGO workers, bankers, embassy and government agency workers. These people will not expect to reduce their standard of living. They are usually giving a contribution towards housing expenses and private schooling for their children. Their salaries are usually high and they tend to maintain the same lifestyle they would back home.The reality is that some people live on 300 Baht a day and others on 5k.
      Reply

      Feb 09, 2016 at 11:35 am

  158. WiltingTilting says

    February 7, 2016 at 6:50 am

    These posts are ridiculous. People asking if 6000$ a month will be enough for Thailand. I hope it`s only a joke, because for such a money you can live almost anywhere in the world very good life, moreover Thailand belongs to the cheaper capital cities in the world. You can live in Bkk with 1000$ and you will be ok. As one user mentioned here that you pay 1000BHT a day for food and drink. Seriously? That`s maybe the reason why all americans are so [deleted] and then are not able to [deleted] and go to Thailand where they really will need 6000$ to satisfy [deleted].
    Reply

    Feb 07, 2016 at 6:50 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      February 7, 2016 at 11:37 am

      It's not ridiculous. It depends on the lifestyle you are used to. 1,000 Baht on food isn't that much.As a family of three we average around 500 Baht a day on shopping. We rarely eat out but eat very well at home. By that I mean mostly organic and highly nutritious foods; no street food. We don't drink alcohol either. Good food in the supermarkets is much more expensive here than back in the UK – I compared the pricing when I was back home recently. If we were to eat out regularly like many other families this could easily run to 1,000 a day. And I know single guys who eat out twice a day, then go out in the evening. These guys are spending 2-3k+ a day per day, easily.Bear in mind that for a family of 3 or 4 in central Bangkok wanting to live in a spacious, modern condo, with enough room for the kids to roam around and not feel like they are in a prison, with a proper kitchen, built to european safety standards and with garden grounds to play out in, this will cost a minimum of 50k Baht a month. My family saves a lot on rent because we choose to live a few stops outside of central BKK. This allows us to save money rather than putting it all in the pocket of a landlord.Then you have school fees, kids clubs (not cheap for music lessons and safe swimming lessons) and more. Oh, add on life insurance, health insurance and other associated living costs. $6,000 is only 4k GBP; and if you want to live the equivalent standard to back home that can get spent quite easily.You are right, you can live here for $1,000 a month, but it all depends on your lifestyle requirements and whether you have a family to take care of.*Note: I have deleted your comments insulting Americans, as per the terms of this blog.
      Reply

      Feb 07, 2016 at 11:37 am

      • will says

        March 5, 2016 at 8:41 am

        Spending THB1000 is not much at all. I am Thai and I'm single. I spend at least 500 a day for work days and more than a thousand a day when I have a day off. My rent is only 5000 baht a month because I am Thai and I'm used to our local living style so I don't need European standard even though I have lived in western country for years. But i would confirm that this blog's information is always true and very useful for those who are planning to visit or work in Thailand.
        Reply

        Mar 05, 2016 at 8:41 am

  159. MetsFan says

    January 26, 2016 at 1:25 pm

    Just wondering how far 5k U.S. would actually carry me. I'll be staying out there for a couple months and want to live in a decent studio/1br. Pretty much just a hangout and tour the cities and beaches sort of thing. Thanks for all the great info my man!
    Reply

    Jan 26, 2016 at 1:25 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      January 26, 2016 at 6:11 pm

      I think 5k is a reasonable budget. You can save a fair bit if you take a VIP bus to whatever beach area/island you want to visit rather than flying. Renting a studio by day will be around 650-800 Baht a night, I guess, depending on the city. This will be your biggest expense. Let's say you spend 650 a night on accommodation, 1000 Baht a day on food and drink, and 1000 on activities (on average). That's $85 a day, around $2550 a month. You could easily save money by eating local food and not drinking too much beer; it all depends on what you prioritise your money towards. But overall I'd say you could have a good time with that budget and see a lot of great places. Enjoy!
      Reply

      Jan 26, 2016 at 6:11 pm

  160. Adre says

    January 20, 2016 at 10:06 am

    Hi,

    Great blog you have here. I'm planning to apply for a uni in Khon Kaen with a scholarship. They do pay the living exp quite a bit, but since I'm married with 2 kids, I don't think it'll be enough. Thus, can you advise whether one can work part-time there? What kind of visa should I take for that? Many thanks for the advise
    Reply

    Jan 20, 2016 at 10:06 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      January 21, 2016 at 5:17 pm

      Hi Adre, working in Thailand requires a work permit. You will be on an ED-visa (education) and no work permit is issued with this. Some people work as an intern while studying, which is often allowed without a WP if it is linked to your education and part of an arrangement with the university. I am not sure if you can apply for a WP separately while on a ED-visa. Drop your local Thai embassy a line and see what they say. Best of luck.
      Reply

      Jan 21, 2016 at 5:17 pm

  161. Mac says

    January 19, 2016 at 5:45 am

    Hello,
    I am a retired, widower planning on moving soon to Bangkok. Will a monthly retirement of 6200usd and 500Kusd be enough to live well?
    Reply

    Jan 19, 2016 at 5:45 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      January 19, 2016 at 5:47 am

      Yes, very well!
      Reply

      Jan 19, 2016 at 5:47 am

    • Mac says

      January 19, 2016 at 6:02 am

      Thank you! Are there certain section in/around BKK that offer some peace/quiet in amongst professionals?

      Lastly,
      What is your opinion; rent or buy??

      Thanks Again!!!
      Reply

      Jan 19, 2016 at 6:02 am

  162. Peter smith says

    January 16, 2016 at 5:53 pm

    Thank you for your very informative blog.
    I'm a Brit, retired and living in South Africa. I'm going to Thailand in April to meet a lady with the thought of settling down with her. I would like to stay 3 months, just so we could get to know each other.
    I'm already coming up with obstacles as far as applying for a visa and wondered if you can advise me.
    Staying a month would be no problem, UK and SA have an agreement and don't need a visa, but to stay longer I would. I can apply for a 3 month visa, but I would only be allowed to stay for 2 months and of course my flight ticket could only be for 2 months.
    I would be grateful if you can tell me how one overcomes this problem . I've been told one has to leave the country for a day, but then are you granted the extra 30 days when you re enter? This seems to be a gray area.
    Thanks for your help.

    Peter
    Reply

    Jan 16, 2016 at 5:53 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      January 17, 2016 at 5:49 am

      You can get a multiple entry tourist visa, valid for 6 months. After 60 days you will need to exit the country and come back in. You will then be given another 60 days. Please se here: http://www.thaiembassyuk.org.uk/?q=node/574
      Reply

      Jan 17, 2016 at 5:49 am

      • Peter smith says

        January 17, 2016 at 12:07 pm

        Thank you for your prompt reply most helpful.
        Reply

        Jan 17, 2016 at 12:07 pm

  163. Jay says

    January 12, 2016 at 12:38 am

    What about taxes that foreign workers needed to pay?
    Reply

    Jan 12, 2016 at 12:38 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      January 17, 2016 at 4:37 pm

      Hi Jay, foreigners working in Thailand do need to pay tax. Those who earn less than 150,000 Thai Baht per year are exempt from income tax. Anything over this amount and less than 500,000 per year is taxed at 10%. Between this amount and 1 million the tax rate is 20%. Over this amount and below 4 million Baht is taxed at 30%.
      Reply

      Jan 17, 2016 at 4:37 pm

  164. Vince says

    January 11, 2016 at 8:11 pm

    Hi there, This is a great blog, thanks. I’m planning to move to Thailand when I retire next year. Do you have any information about medical insurance in Thailand. How much is the premium?
    Reply

    Jan 11, 2016 at 8:11 pm

  165. johnathan says

    December 11, 2015 at 3:03 pm

    Hi ,

    Great blog!!
    I've been living in asia for 15 years and currently living in Bali. I am thinking doing a course in the University in Bangkok, so 'll be on an education visa. Do you know if foreigner can obtain a Thai driving license for a bike or scooter? If so, what's the procedure?
    Also, can foreigner own a vehicle in Thailand?

    I look forward to your reply.

    Johnathan
    Reply

    Dec 11, 2015 at 3:03 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      December 11, 2015 at 4:25 pm

      Hi Jonathan, a foreigner can obtain a driving license, but not on a tourist visa. If you stay for more than 3 months you will require one; tourists can drive a moped with the license of their home country. With the education visa you will be able to apply. Where to apply depends on where you live. you need to visit the local Department of Land Transportation. And yes, a foreigner can own a vehicle in Thailand.
      Reply

      Dec 11, 2015 at 4:25 pm

      • Johnathan says

        December 13, 2015 at 11:31 am

        Thanks a lot. That's a great help. However, I have just thought of another question: What does a Thai driving test consist of?
        Here in Indonesia, if you search for official information, it will tell you that there is a written and practical part to the test. Therefore, you'd have to be reasonably fluent in Bahasa Indonesian in order to take the written part. In reality, you just pay 350 thousand Rupiah and buy a one-year license. So, is it as easy to obtain a scooter/motorcycle license in Thailand?

        J
        Reply

        Dec 13, 2015 at 11:31 am

  166. Serge says

    November 22, 2015 at 1:46 pm

    Hi There,

    Thank you for your post. It is extremely very helpful. I recently came from a 2 week vacation in Bangkok, Thailand and I was astonished to how much an UberX ride for a just a few minutes was around $1 USD. Holy cow!! my cheapest UberX was just 98 cents. I live in San Diego, California and there is no way in San Diego or anywhere in California an Uber will ever cost around $1 USD. I am sold now in living in Thailand just from this 2 week trip experience and this blog.

    My question is where online can I look for condos and apartments? I currently have passive income of $2,000 USD per month tax free. I'm 31 and single and I don't drink. Where would be the best area to live in Bangkok for someone like me. I want to be comfortable..

    How does the visa process work? If I don't have a visa but just a passport. Can I really live in Thailand and for how long? Can I even have a lease and utilities under my name if I don't have a visa? or do I need to hook up with a local to make that happen.

    Also, what are some things to be aware of or certain disadvantages to living in Bangkok, Thailand (i.e. taxes, government influences, crimes, etc.)?

    Thank you for the post.
    Reply

    Nov 22, 2015 at 1:46 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      November 24, 2015 at 1:35 pm

      Hi Serge, $2,000 is enough to live a good single life in Bangkok. Apartments to rent are everywhere. You'll want to pretty centrally located I assume, so for someone of your age you might like the more trendy Ekkamai and Thong Lor areas. You could rent a nice studio flat with all modern amenities on site close to the BTS for say $600 here. But if you go a little further out to On Nut or Prakanong, you can rent a studio for half that or less. Huay Kwang is also a good area for cheaper condo rents, and only 4 stops from town.I always say that the best way to find a good place to rent is to arrive and book into a hotel for a week, and then head out on foot and find somewhere you like. The best deals are usually found by walking into places and requesting a look around. Personally I prefer to rent from a managed building, not privately. This way, if any maintenance needs doing, there's someone on site to fix and replace things. You also pay your rent to an office on site, rather than a private owner.In terms of a visa, you can apply for 6-month multi entry tourist visa. Check your local Thai Embassy website for the latest requirements. Or, for a longer stay, if you want to learn Thai you can get an education visa through a language school. Lots of people go down that route.The main disadvantages to living in Bangkok are:1. Horrible traffic - don't bother driving! 2. Bad air quality - and getting worse. 3. Lack of green spaces to chill out 4. Hot as hell, and getting hotter.The pros are an ultra-convenient city. Loads of great people. Lots going on in terms of music, art, festivals, markets, etc. Pretty cheap. Buzzing vive 24/7.I have never experienced any crime here. To keep yourself safe, just be sensible, same as you would anywhere else.
      Reply

      Nov 24, 2015 at 1:35 pm

      • Serge says

        November 25, 2015 at 9:22 am

        Thank you so much. I really appreciate the work you do and the feedback.
        Reply

        Nov 25, 2015 at 9:22 am

        • Ronald Huntington says

          January 12, 2016 at 12:07 pm

          Wow I'm in the same situation except I make 2700 usd a month. I'm 30 and live in San Francisco. I want to come to bkk for myself not to teach or anything.
          Reply

          Jan 12, 2016 at 12:07 pm

  167. Vera says

    November 13, 2015 at 12:14 pm

    Thanks for the info, really great to see some real prices and advice for everyday life!
    My husband and I are looking to stop working in the next few years (hopefully not too long!) and I was wondering if it would be viable to live in Thailand for about 3 months every year. Would you know if short term rents are common, and what the rent for a furnished 1 bed place is? We would like to ideally spend the rest of the time between Oz and Europe so won't be spending longer stretches of time in Thailand (also probably near a good beach rather than Bangkok).
    Reply

    Nov 13, 2015 at 12:14 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      November 13, 2015 at 12:31 pm

      Hi Vera, short term renting isn't a problem, though you will pay more obviously. It really does depend on location and quality, but I'm sure you could rent a nice one-bedroom place in say Samui or Phuket for under $600 (US) per month. That would be within walking distance to a beach. You can find places for half that money, but I'm assuming you want something at the more luxurious end of the scale.
      Reply

      Nov 13, 2015 at 12:31 pm

      • Vera says

        November 13, 2015 at 1:24 pm

        Thanks for that, sounds like a reasonable amount. Is that rent for a furnished apartment?
        P.S. Very happy to hear there are organic eggs :-)
        Reply

        Nov 13, 2015 at 1:24 pm

        • TheThailandLife says

          November 13, 2015 at 2:00 pm

          That would be furnished :)
          Reply

          Nov 13, 2015 at 2:00 pm

  168. Viviane says

    November 4, 2015 at 4:26 pm

    Hello Congrats on your blog. My husband and I are thinking in try to get a job in Thailand. Our current salary together is around 4k € but we don't know how is gonna be in there. We have a baby 1yo and we would like to know if we can live well getting maybe 2000€ in the beginning? My expectations of living well is: 2 bedroom flat or house (65 - 70sm) close to any metro station; Day care to put the baby in; Gym membership Extra mone to expand on weekends (we Do not drink or smoke) Normal expenses like internet and pre paid phone. Thanks for helping :) Cheers Viviane
    Reply

    Nov 04, 2015 at 4:26 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      November 5, 2015 at 11:02 pm

      Hi Viviane, 2000 Euros would be doable. You could get a lovely 2 bedroom for 600-700 Euros close to a metro station. Day care really depends on the reputation and location. Should be less than 300 Euros. Gym membership will be 35-40 Euros a month for a good gym. Internet around 15 Euros and prepaid phone about the same a month.You'd be left with 1000 Euros for food and socialising and other expenses.
      Reply

      Nov 05, 2015 at 11:02 pm

  169. TV says

    October 28, 2015 at 5:45 pm

    Great post! Lots of people wonder what their living expenses in Thailand would be like. I moved here less than a year ago and after a couple of months I figured out many of the do's and dont's.

    I have to admit that I feel terribly cheap reading your post. I live on 15-18,000 baht a month in Bangkok. I only pay 5,000 for a shiny brand new studio room with a kitchenette close to my work. However, It did take me some time to find a place like this. The nearest BTS station is a 3-4 minute motorbike ride away.

    It all depends on your needs. My lifestyle is fairly frugal, but I still go to the cinema a couple of times a month and I eat out very frequently.

    Tip: Tesco is a lot cheaper than Topps or Big C, especially the meat and vegetables.
    Reply

    Oct 28, 2015 at 5:45 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      October 28, 2015 at 10:00 pm

      Thanks TV. I think that's the cool thing about living in Thailand; the range of options for accommodation and food. It really does depend on the things you prioritise and how you manage your money. Some years I used to rent a studio for 6k a month that was within walking distance to the MRT. It was a nice place; no pool or gym but clean, good balcony, modern, etc. These places can be found if you're prepared to put in a day or two of looking around. Also, if you're single, and don't drink a lot of alcohol, living expenses are far cheaper.
      Reply

      Oct 28, 2015 at 10:00 pm

    • Boris says

      October 30, 2015 at 7:57 am

      TV you are right.All you posted are real and affordable!!!
      I live with normal hard working Thai women and we spend about 20.000 per month(in her 34m condominium with 2300 baht mortgage rate per month)
      She cook delicious (Thai and some Japanese) food every day.
      We have good internet connection,cable TV,aircon.,kitchen .
      We buy every month some new part of furniture or some kitchen device and bill almost never exceed 20.000 baht.
      I have very close to my place all playgrounds and fitness every day for free!!!!
      I am high educated with good savings and monthly income,but simply no need to spend more for really good life!!!!
      Now I live much better than in Europe where I need to spend about 70.000 baht per month for similar life style!!!
      Almost all foreign teachers from Europe and USA live here for less than 20.000 baht!
      That is the fact!!!
      Reply

      Oct 30, 2015 at 7:57 am

  170. John Luna says

    October 22, 2015 at 5:37 pm

    Great Blog man, Thank you for the information. :)
    Reply

    Oct 22, 2015 at 5:37 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      October 22, 2015 at 9:51 pm

      Cheers John, welcome on board!
      Reply

      Oct 22, 2015 at 9:51 pm

  171. Rick Golden says

    September 6, 2015 at 7:04 am

    Hi,
    I live in New Zealand and want to experience living in Chiang Mai
    Can a couple live comfortably on $1600 USD /Month there?
    What level would you expect it might be,inland or near a beach?
    Reply

    Sep 06, 2015 at 7:04 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      September 6, 2015 at 11:15 am

      Hi Rick, it really depends on your expectations. A few years back I did some living in Chiang Mai and rented a nice double room for around 7k Baht a month ($210). Food is cheap up there with plenty of options too. I don't think you'd have much left over with two of you, but it's certainly possible if you are living fairly frugally. Many people teaching English up there are living on around 900 USD a month. It would be possible to live in Bangkok on that too, but beachside locations tend to be more expensive on food. That said, when I was in Samui some years back, there were people living on a lot less than that and scraping by. Maybe up it to 1k each and you'll be more comfortable. Though with two of you to keep the budget in check, I think you'll be okay.
      Reply

      Sep 06, 2015 at 11:15 am

  172. Thailandon6@gmail.com says

    August 31, 2015 at 12:35 am

    Hello Folks,

    I'm retired with an after-tax income of $6,000 USD.

    I'm considering moving to Thailand and have the following "likes."

    1. Live close - walking distance to ocean
    2. Comfortable living quarters (safe, sound, sanitary)
    3. Live-in maid service
    4. Live-in cooking service

    Is this possible?

    Thank you!
    Reply

    Aug 31, 2015 at 12:35 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      August 31, 2015 at 11:56 am

      This is certainly possible. I'd say your best bets are Hua Hin, Koh Samui, and Phuket. There's always Pattaya. It's not my sort of place but it has a big expat community. The beach/ocean down that way isn't very nice though; neither is Hua Hin to be fair. Samui would be my preference for an island with great high-quality living options as you require.
      Reply

      Aug 31, 2015 at 11:56 am

  173. Adrian Mc Donnell says

    July 18, 2015 at 1:16 pm

    Hi First of all I commend you on your blog as its bloody brilliant hearing all your information from the horses mouth so to speak.
    I am an electrical / mechanical engineer and work on machinery like production plants and my salary in the uk is £35k and just in the thinking process of moving to Thailand ,I was wondering on the salary over there and is it a job for ex pat's or is it generally the locals that do this type of work ?
    Reply

    Jul 18, 2015 at 1:16 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      July 18, 2015 at 2:39 pm

      Hi Adrian, thanks for your kind words. I think this would be a job reserved for Thais, but I'd imagine there is foreign management positions if the company is international. I would start by researching multinational companies in your field who have plants in Thailand and see if you can find contact details to drop them an email and enquire. I haven't met any expats in this field. The closest I have is a few guys in the past who worked on oil rigs near neighbouring countries but based themselves in Thailand when on leave. LinkedIn is probably a good place to research too.
      Reply

      Jul 18, 2015 at 2:39 pm

  174. Paula says

    July 8, 2015 at 12:40 pm

    Hi great blog thanks. I'm looking to move to Thailand and have two teenagers and a 7 ur old. You mention around 1,000 baht per person/day...did that include rent costs? So for us about 30,0000/week = 120,000 per month. Correct? Cheers
    Reply

    Jul 08, 2015 at 12:40 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      July 8, 2015 at 12:58 pm

      Hi Paula, it really does depend on what area you live in. The costs to live in Chiang Mai for example are far cheaper than those in central Bangkok. You're going to need a 4 bed apartment or a house. In Chiang Mai you'd get a great house for 25-30k a month, but in Bangkok it might set you back 50,000 for a 4-bed apartment or house, and as much as 75-100k+ in a prime location.It also depends on the type of lifestyle you are accustomed to/want to live. As someone else mentioned, buying local goods instead of imports will save you lots of money.I reckon you could live well for around 500 a day each. Of course some days you'll spend more than others when going out to eat and doing social stuff. Factor in a budget for a nice place to live of about 40-50k, and that comes in at about 110k Baht a month. Presuming you want to live in BKK, if you don't mind being 5-7 stops outside of central BKK on the underground/overground, you can cut your rental costs considerably.Some people will always tell you that you can live far cheaper, and others would say they spend 3k+ a day on themselves. It really does depend on your "must haves" and "can sacrifices". If you cook at home mostly you'll save a ton of money.Don't forget to factor in your health insurance and travel insurance costs, and life insurance if you have it.
      Reply

      Jul 08, 2015 at 12:58 pm

      • Boris says

        October 29, 2015 at 3:33 pm

        I live very nice and comfortable life with my Thai wife in her 34 m condominium(under mortgage 2300 baht per month) in Bkk,20 minutes far from Asoke,Sukhumwit by bus.Our monthly expenses does not exceed 20.000 baht per month.
        Before my expenses were about 20.000 baht when I lived alone in Bang Chak Sukhumwit in studio condo(4500 baht).
        All teachers I know here does not spend more than 25000 baht(15000-25000 baht).
        I eat and enjoy in Thai food and avoid malls!!!
        I used to speak Thai as well!!!
        My wife does not speak english and she work very hard !!!
        I never understood people which spend 70.000 -100.000 baht per month????Most of them have very poor life in a fact and they are not socilized
        Reply

        Oct 29, 2015 at 3:33 pm

        • TheThailandLife says

          October 29, 2015 at 5:09 pm

          Hi Boris, do you mean 34 Sqm? That's a pretty small space for two adults. And 20k a month for 2 people, that's less than $9 a day each!I think it's unfair to say those spending 70k+ a month have a very poor life and aren't socialised. I have a wife and daughter, and therefore we require a condo with a kitchen to cook proper meals and enough space for my daughter to be able to play comfortably. It also needs to be a modern block and adhere to all safety standards that I consider essential for a child. Even still, we pay under 20k a month. If we were closer to the centre of town, which I wouldn't want to be, this would cost 30-40k.I don't drink alcohol, so I save money there, but as a family we eat very well; organic vegetables and pay a premium for quality on most goods - so my shopping bill probably costs what you spend in total a month. Again, I wouldn't feed my daughter street food, so as I mentioned in my post, expenses boil down to what you prioritise. I don't spend a lot of money personally. I don't buy designer clothes or go out for lavish dinners, but I spend what is necessary to give my family the best I can, which includes things like private medical insurance, a good education, Uber black taxis instead of dangerous public taxis, a good diet, a nice holiday once in a while, etc.A single guy could live on 40k in BKK, so I think 80k for a one-child family is about right.
          Reply

          Oct 29, 2015 at 5:09 pm

          • Boris says

            October 29, 2015 at 7:53 pm

            I will only remind you that my wife cook Thai and sometimes Japanese food ,so I do eat very rarely outside Thai or Japanese food .In Terminal 21 Mall 6 floor there is food corner with great food from 30-60 baht.
            Same food downstairs you will pay 300-500 baht!!!!
            It is not "street food" as you try to tell me!!!!
            I buy food in Markets or meat in Tesco and we use soy oil and olive oil for fish.
            I think that 34 m2 is pretty enough for 2 people and we have small kitchen,bathroom,living and sleeping room and balcony besides!
            I have good internet connection and cable TV and air condition of course!!!
            Yes,I avoid Malls and western food cos. it is not healthy and very expensive besides.
            I do not want to drive car here as well so we have motorcycle and bicycle .
            My income from retirement is about 50000 baht and my wife have only 20000 baht per month!!!I have some income from dividend yield and capital gain as well!!!
            No kids and no need to pay rent.We do not drink or smoke!!!
            My wife make delicious food .She is farmer daughter and she can choose good food from village people here.
            When I came here before 3 and half year,I was living in Sukhumwit Bang Chak and On Nut ,near BTS and spent much more and had less quality !!!!
            All people around are Thais!
            I think that you spend too much but it is your life.
            Reply

            Oct 29, 2015 at 7:53 pm

  175. Nick says

    June 19, 2015 at 12:24 pm

    Your prices are for living like a Westerner in Thailand. Buying western food and branded clothing. If you buy your food at a market and not at Topps it is a fraction of the cost. If you shop at Chatuchak Market and Platinum Mall for clothes they are a fraction of the price. Only thing that you cannot change is rental costs. Avoiding dairy saves a fortune. Buying at a market cost of food is:

    1kg chicken breast 70 baht
    1kg pork mince 65 baht
    1kg carrots 25 baht
    10 large eggs 38 baht

    Clothes from Chatuchak

    Jeans 700 baht
    Shirts 100-350 baht
    Dress 200-400 baht
    Trousers 500-800 baht

    Shop around and get your costs to a reasonable level. Move out from the centre of Bangkok. Two of us live in a 55sqm 1 bed condo on the outskirts of Bangkok, rental is 10,000 a month. Our total living expenses for the month are around 40,000. You can live cheaply here, just need to stop buying Western things!
    Reply

    Jun 19, 2015 at 12:24 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      June 19, 2015 at 1:15 pm

      Hi Nick, yes, the prices in this post are geared towards western living in Thailand because most people planning on living an expat life tend to want at least some of these things. A great alternative post would be to list the cost of living like a Thai, but that makes for quite an inaccurate generalisation, as some Thais I know spend more than I do on clothes, rent, socialising, food etc. For example, I'd never pay 7 GBP for a pack of cherries shipped in from Japan, nor 5,000 Baht for a pair of jeans at Siam. But you're spot on, there's plenty of ways to cut costs and still have a great life. The way I live is to prioritise the things I really can't live without, and cut costs on those I can. For example, I don't want to live in central Sukhumvit, so I live a few stops out and save money on rent, but I can't live without good quality food, so I spend a fair bit on that.
      Reply

      Jun 19, 2015 at 1:15 pm

  176. Venky says

    April 29, 2015 at 9:12 pm

    Hi this is venky from india, I cleared interview one Thailand company,

    I am software engineer with 7 years experience,I want to know How much salary i can quote in Salary discussion

    And am single what is living cost for single in bangkok and any taxes applicable for me..?

    Please let me know above points

    thanks in advance
    Reply

    Apr 29, 2015 at 9:12 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      May 1, 2015 at 10:15 pm

      Hi Venky,I only know the salaries for app developers and this may be quite different to what you do. These tend to range from 35 to 50k a month. Your company will deduct the applicable tax from your wages. If you live in central Bangkok, I think 1,000 Baht a day will cover you, though it depends on how much you go out and whether you drink or not.
      Reply

      May 01, 2015 at 10:15 pm

      • VV says

        October 18, 2016 at 2:42 pm

        Hello,

        I work in India and I earn about INR 2,25,000 per month(without tax) and I have a wife and 1 year old twins. My monthly expenses come to INR55000 to 60000 per month and I have a own house here(so my expense does not include rent). I see a job opportunity for me in Bangkok and they asked me my expected salary. I need some help in answering the below queries I have:
        a) Depending on your article, I see my expenses coming close to 80000-90000Baht/month. Is it ok? We plan to eat home cooked food as we are pure vegetarians.
        b) Does the amount I mentioned above took care of insurance? Do the companies take care of employee and their family's medical insurance costs, like in India?
        c) Is BKK a good move to live/work with babies/toddlers?
        d) Depending on your article and my 12 yrs experience in IT sector and the savings I am looking for, Is 2,30,000Baht/month a high expectation for salary in Software development sector(if you have an idea and can comment).
        Sorry for asking you so many questions but I could not help much. Thanks !
        Reply

        Oct 18, 2016 at 2:42 pm

        • TheThailandLife says

          October 18, 2016 at 8:48 pm

          Please give me your current salary and expenses in USD or GBP. 2,30,000Baht/month a nearly 50k GBP. That's insane. Even 230k, if you meant that, is well over the limit. My friend runs a tech-related company here and the highest paid employee gets less than half that.
          Reply

          Oct 18, 2016 at 8:48 pm

          • VV says

            October 21, 2016 at 11:59 am

            I work in India and I earn about 3363USD per month(before taxes) and I have a wife and 1 year old twins. My monthly expenses come to USD 820-890 per month and I have a own house here(so my expenses does not include rent). I see a job opportunity for me in Bangkok and they asked me my expected salary. I need some help in answering the below queries I have:
            a) Depending on your article, I see my expenses coming close to 80000-90000Baht/month. Is it right? We plan to eat home cooked food as we are pure vegetarians.
            b) Do the companies in BKK take care of employee and their family’s medical insurance costs, like in India?
            c) Is BKK a good move to live/work with babies/toddlers?
            d) Depending on your article and my 12 yrs experience in IT sector and the savings I am looking for, Is 2,30,000Baht/month a high expectation for salary in Software development sector(if you have an idea and can comment).
            Sorry for asking you so many questions but I could not help much. Thanks !
            Reply

            Oct 21, 2016 at 11:59 am

  177. Victoria says

    April 24, 2015 at 10:15 pm

    hi there,
    i really love your blog, its amazing! im gonna spend 4 months in Chiang Mai next semester as a college student. as long as i know, ill have student housing. i dont know the price but i think its gonna be cheaper than an apartment .what do you think, 1000euros (35 000baht, at current rates) are gonna be enough or should i start saving more money? thank you!
    Reply

    Apr 24, 2015 at 10:15 pm

    • TheThailandLife says

      April 24, 2015 at 10:42 pm

      Hi Victoria, thanks for your kind words. dD you mean 1000 Euros per month? If so, that's enough to get by if your student housing is less than 5-7k Baht a month. I'd say you need approximately 1,000 Baht a day to be on the safe side, although some days when you are chilling out you won't spend near that. I've met people in Thailand living on less than 500 Baht a day; it's all down to what you spend on food and drink and whether you want to go on lots of excursions, etc. I had a friend who taught in Chiang Mai for a year and earned 30,000 Baht a month. He lived fairly well and had a good time, but he didn't have much at all left over at the end of the month.
      Reply

      Apr 24, 2015 at 10:42 pm

  178. Kimora says

    March 31, 2015 at 9:15 pm

    Tnks for d comment it hlpd mi.
    Reply

    Mar 31, 2015 at 9:15 pm

  179. Kimora says

    March 31, 2015 at 9:15 pm

    Ooo really den i betr look for anoda country!
    Reply

    Mar 31, 2015 at 9:15 pm

  180. Kimora says

    March 30, 2015 at 5:41 am

    Hi evrybdy m kim frm nigeria i read d post en i must say lovely ,but sorry to divert ya attention am a younq lady dat wana qet into colleqe xo i start browsinq was happy all happy but den my happiness faded off wen i read daht universities in thailand requires you to wear a school uniform das absurds en pepostrious er in nigeria it unimaqinable nd unthinkable

    my dear frnds can anyone quide mi thru? Lyk tel me wich university doesnt let foreign student wear uniforms...plz m in nid.
    Reply

    Mar 30, 2015 at 5:41 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      March 30, 2015 at 4:25 pm

      Hi Kimora, you are correct, every college and university in Thailand requires students to wear a uniform. There are some government college courses for mature students wanting to go back and learn a skill or trade where students don't have to wear a uniform to attend, but this is the exception.
      Reply

      Mar 30, 2015 at 4:25 pm

  181. gordon says

    February 10, 2015 at 6:49 am

    I retire april 2015 i will have an income of $500 ausd i live by myselfe i will go to the pub a couple of tlmes a week to socialise i dont smoke i would like to rent a one bed condo near the beach will i have enough money
    Reply

    Feb 10, 2015 at 6:49 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      February 10, 2015 at 2:47 pm

      Hi Gordon, 500AUD comes in at just under 13,000 Baht, which won't be enough to sustain living by the beach or anywhere else in Thailand to be honest. I'd say you'd need a minimum of 1000 AUD. With that amount, if you rented a small room and a cheap moped, ate local food and drank local beer a couple of times a week, you could probably manage. But it's always worth considering that other expenses come up and you should always have savings you can access in case of an emergency.
      Reply

      Feb 10, 2015 at 2:47 pm

    • Nattawat says

      February 12, 2015 at 9:21 am

      500AUD (13000baht) yeah its not gonna get u survive here. At least you need around 18000 baht.

      1. You gotta rent 5000 Baht (room with air condition)

      2. Food is around 50 baht per meal (with water) if you don't eat too much. That will be fine. So that's 4500 baht

      3. If you go clubbing twice a week and go the pub that don't have enter fee, It will cost you around 500 baht (I can recommend you some :) )
      So that's 4000 baht

      4. Transportation cost : You can't use BTS if you wanna stay near the beach. So your public transportation will be bus which cost you around 2000 baht for the whole month. Also you might need a Motorcycle transport which will cost you around 1500 baht for the whole month.

      5. Airport Transportation around 300-400 baht depends on distance. so that's 800

      5. Summarize cost = 5000+4500+4000+2000+1500+800 = 17,800 baht.
      Reply

      Feb 12, 2015 at 9:21 am

      • Nattawat says

        February 12, 2015 at 9:23 am

        Oh and you might need

        extra for SIM CARD true which will be 599 baht per month. 3G/3GB
        Reply

        Feb 12, 2015 at 9:23 am

      • Jet says

        November 17, 2015 at 5:04 pm

        Hi Nattawat, does your computation factor in utilities (electricity, water, gas, internet)? Did you include that already in the rent?
        Reply

        Nov 17, 2015 at 5:04 pm

    • Neale says

      April 2, 2015 at 11:19 am

      Is that $500AUD per fortnight or month? Pension is more than $500AUD per month?
      Reply

      Apr 02, 2015 at 11:19 am

  182. Chris says

    December 9, 2014 at 11:13 am

    I used to wear nike myself but they have crappy distribution in thailand so its more expensive. I switched to adidas thier online store in thailand is awesome and offer free shipping with prices 15% cheaper than australia.
    Reply

    Dec 09, 2014 at 11:13 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      December 28, 2014 at 11:35 am

      Wow, that's pretty awesome. Thanks for the heads up on that, Chris.
      Reply

      Dec 28, 2014 at 11:35 am

  183. Seven Dials says

    December 6, 2014 at 10:16 am

    These figures match my own experience. The best way to cut monthly bills is to move a little way out from the center.

    You can also save up to 50% by buying basic foodstuffs from a local streetmarket instead of Tops.

    "Cutting the cable" and downloading entertainment from the Internet is also a big money saver.

    Reducing alcohol consumption by 90% made a big difference for me. The health benefits have been signifcant too.

    Reducing careless out-of-pocket spending saves thousands of baht each month. Goodbye Starbucks.

    It is also important not to make false economies. Living in a nice apartment with a proper kitchen and a fast Internet connection greatly reduces the urge to go out. I reckon that this generates the biggest saving of all.
    Reply

    Dec 06, 2014 at 10:16 am

    • TheThailandLife says

      December 6, 2014 at 10:42 am

      I tend to shop at Tops and Max Value for quick shops on the fly and Big C and Tesco when I have time. I take a trip to the Farmers' Market occasionally too, and buy my fruit locally.It surprises me that more people don't live a few stops out of central Sukhumvit, in either direction. The rent literally halves in some cases and you find nicer areas/sois too. I also prefer to live among everyday working Thais rather than in the touristy part of town. And it's literally 6-8 minutes into town on the tube.You're right, Starbucks does rack up, particularly for someone like me who goes to a coffee shop pretty much every other day. Black Canyon is better value for money, and there a good few independent coffee shops too.
      Reply

      Dec 06, 2014 at 10:42 am

      • Damien says

        March 13, 2017 at 8:26 pm

        Live in Bearing end of the Sukh. BTS line. B11000 p/month no washing machine here, got a B1000 discount. Nice place a/c hard to know as first was b260.There is a streetside washing machine up the road b20. There is a staffed laundry at the condos where i live.10 minute walk to BTS, happy to or b15 Motohsai taxi.Early morning can buy packaged boiled rice, 4x7-11 stores in 10 min. walk.BBQ meat on a stick vendors mostly always til 9pm.I eat a lot of spaghetti & boiled veg at home, with a cooktop saucepan & Hanabishi (B300?). Spend far too much on alcohol at Sukh. central bars. Cider expensive haha Tops much cheaper near Termnal 21. Going to AUA natural language learning for 3 months eventually, understanding not speaking really.Adventure rolls on tomorrow.
        Reply

        Mar 13, 2017 at 8:26 pm

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