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The Thailand Elite Visa – Is it Worth it?

Obtaining a visa for Thailand can be complex, confusing and in some cases costly. The system has always been convoluted and shows no signs of changing any time soon.

Entering on a 30-day stay or a tourist visa is fairly easy (apply at your local Thai embassy/consulate before you arrive), but if you want a long stay visa, or to come in and out 2-3 times a year and stay for a few months at a time, you may find yourself not so smiley in the land of smiles.

Why? Because the red tape of immigration can be a pain.

90-day reporting, extension of stay, 800k in a Thai bank or an income certificate with a monthly income of not less than 65,000 Baht, proof of residence, marriage certificate… These are just a few of the terms and requirements you may face when dealing with your visa extension or application.

So, for those who’d like to skip the hassle at immigration, for those who can't deal with the bureaucracy and, let’s say, have deeper pockets than most, the Thailand Elite Visa might be a game changer.

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What Is the Thailand Elite Visa?

On July 29, 2003, the Thai government passed an initiative known as the Thailand Privilege Card Project- a program enacted by the Ministry of Tourism and Sports.

The intention behind the Thailand Privilege Card Project is to generate income and revenue from foreign patrons to the Kingdom and also attract those visitors who are involved in business ventures, those who are investors and those who are looking to stay for long periods and improve the local economy.

For these visitors, the Thai government offers an ‘elite’ visa.

The Elite Visa was founded on the idea that Thailand would benefit greatly from the presence of the aforementioned visitors, while in turn offering multiple benefits for business, leisure, immigration, etc.

The scheme has gone through a number of changes, and this posts documents its current terms and conditions – and my opinion, for what it's worth!

Who's Eligible?

Pretty much anyone with the cash, except those without permission to be in Thailand, those who've been imprisoned in another country, and those who have been declared bankrupt at some point.

Oh, and Elite Members must also be deemed sound and competent, medically. That counts out most of us expats then…hehe.

You don't need to be in Thailand to apply. The form can be submitted electronically on the website.

As an ‘elite', you'll be granted a 5-year multiple entry visa. Sounds sweet, right? Maybe…

Bear in mind that those registered as members are the sole recipients of the services, which means your family members won't enjoy all the benefits that you do. They do get some though.

Family members can join you through airport fast track, and benefit from the  limousine service. They may also receive special discounts from shops and spas, but this will be based on the policies of the individual service providers.

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The Different Packages

The Elite membership comes in several different packages, but essentially there are 6 core packages that fall under the umbrella of 4 different cards. There's too many options in my opinion. Why not just have 3 or 4 packages and streamline things. Keep it simple already!

You can upgrade too. So if you find that your “eliteness” isn't enough and needs a boost, simply contact your assistant.

1. Elite Easy Access

– Membership validity of 5 years

– Costs 500,000 THB

– Members can be any age

– Services include: airport service, an arrival and departure lounge, short haul transfer service on international flights, discounts, call centers and government concierges

2. Elite Family Excursion (for minimum 2 persons)

– Membership validity of 5 years

– Costs 800,000 THB

– For additional family members there is a fee of 300,000 THB

– Service includes airport service, departure and arrival lounge access, short haul transfer service (4x per year), long haul transfer service (6x per year), discounts, call centers, and government concierges

3. Elite Family Alternative Package

– Membership validity of 10 years

– Costs 800,000 THB (plus an additional 700,000 THB for additional family members)

– Visa is 5-year renewable

– Services include airport service, departure and arrival lounges, discounts, call centers and government concierges

4. Elite Privilege Access Package

– The fee is 1,000,000 THB and each additional family member costs 800,000 THB

– Members can be any age and the visa is renewable after 5 years

– Services included: Airport service, departure and arrival lounges, short haul transfer service on international flights 18 times per calendar year, annual health check 1x per year, discounts, a call center and government concierges

5. Elite Superiority Extension

– Membership fee of 1,000,000 THB

– Visas that accompany this plan can be renewed after 5 years

– Services include: airport service, departure and arrival lounge availability, discounts, call centers and government concierges

6. Elite Ultimate Membership

– Membership fee of 2,000,000 THB and an annual fee of 20,000 THB

– Members must be over 20 years old

– Visa is renewable after 5 years

– Services include: unlimited airport and limousine pickup, golf / spa services 24x a year, one annual health check up, and government concierges

* The small print says: Membership is contingent upon the Company’s approval and receipt of the membership fee. The company may also disclose any and all personal information of the member. The company also holds the rights to terminate the agreement at any time.

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Key Elite Member Benefits:

Okay, so here's an overview of the benefits. After I'm done listing these, I'm going to get into my opinion on whether these benefits are really that valuable, or whether it's just all smoke and mirrors!

Expedited Arrival & Departure

You will be greeted upon arrival by a Thailand Elite personal assistant who will take you to your car and shuttle you to a hotel or anywhere else you want to go. When departing, you'll be whisked through the check-in process and expedite passport control processing. A departure lounge is also provided for those with elite status.

Hospital Check-Up

Members with complimentary annual medical check ups can receive care at a number of  hospitals in Bangkok, including:

  • Bangkok Hospital – Bangkok
  • Bangkok Hospital – Hua Hin
  • Bangkok Pattaya Hospital
  • Bangkok Phuket Hospital
  • Bangkok Samui Hospital
  • BNH Hospital
  • Bumrungrad International Hospital
  • Chiangmai Ram Hospital
  • Lanna Hospital
  • Cheaper Banking

Elite members are eligible for the following perks with Bangkok Bank when opening a specific FCD (Foreign Currency Deposit Account):

  • 200 THB fee for fund receipt
  • 200 THB fee for fund transfer
  • No minimum initial deposit
  • No minimum balance required
  • Maintenance fee waived
  • Invitation to become a Bualuang Exclusive Member

Hassle-Free Immigration

Becoming a Thailand Elite Member enables you to bypass long immigration lines at the airport. Thailand Elite has a priority line at immigration checkpoints and the process is facilitated by a Thailand Elite PA. Note that this service is only available in Chiang Mai, Bangkok and Phuket

You don't have to do 90-day reporting at immigration either. You do, however, have to take your passport to an office so that a member of staff can process it for you. You can pick up your passport again after 72 hours.

But! This service is only available in Bangkok, Chang Mai, Phuket and Pattaya. Bummer if you live upcountry.

The official line is:

Members have to do 90-day reporting of address every 3 months of continuous stay.

The process is as follows:

  1. Drop passport with a completed TM47 form at our office from 09.00 – 15.00 every Tuesday.
  2. EPL staff will take the passport with TM47 form to the immigration office on Wednesday.
  3. Passport can be collected at the office on Thursday from 09.00-15.00.

Investment Opportunities

Apparently, you will be entitled to special concierge services to facilitate dealing with both the Thai Government Sector and the Private Sector to enhance business opportunity and investment. I'll speak my mind on this in the next section.

Golf, Spa & Shopping Discounts

Complimentary rounds of golf are available at the Alpine Golf Club, The Bangkok Golf Club, the Bangpra Golf Club, the Banyan Golf Club Hua Hin, the Chiangmai Highland Golf & Spa Resort and many others.

Elite members are also eligible for a free one and a half hour massage. You and your guests get a 15% discount on massages in Laguna Phuket, as well as a 15% discount on selected items at this spa.

Elite Members get a 10% discount on regularly priced merchandise, excluding certain items at the Emporium Department Store, Paragon Department Store and the Em Quartier. So the stuff that is probably discounted already then?

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Benefits Value: Elite Visa Vs. Reality (time & cost)

90-Day Reporting Vs. Extension of Stay & Visa Runs

In Thailand, visas can generally be extended for a cost of 1,900 THB. Some, like the Non-O can be extended for 60 days, others like a tourist visa for 60 days.

A visa run (over the border and back) is around the same price.

So let's just say that to stay in Thailand for a year you need to extend 3-4 times or do 4 visa runs, depending on your visa.

Hypothetical situation, anyway. I just want to try and cost the Elite visa vs. the hassle option.

Assuming a prospective visa run to Laos costs on average 2,000 THB (between bus/mini van transportation to the border) and the Laotian visa 1,000 THB on arrival, this process (repeated 4 times) would result in an annual cost of roughly 12,000 THB.

That's a far cry from what the Thailand Elite membership costs – the cheapest option tier is 500k.

Even if you stay in Laos for a holiday, you'd have to be a serious party-goer to spend what you would buying the Elite visa.

Additionally, if you have a Non-O multiple entry visa, you can extend at immigration for 60 days and stay in the country for 5 months straight anyway. On a retirement visa you don't need to leave, just report every 90 days.

Sure, you have the hassle of the financial requirements of a retirement visa (800k in a Thai bank or proving 65k a month income), and on the Non-O most likely having to go with your wife or child and doing all the paperwork, but hey, it it really that bad?

Or is the Elite Visa worth its weight in convenience? You tell me.

Admittedly, immigration can be a hassle. Having someone else to help you with this process saves time and energy. However, remember that this benefit only covers BKK, Chiang Mai, Pattaya and Phuket. If you live outside of these places, you still have to report like everyone else. That sucks.

Airport Concierge Vs. Wait In Line

Is not having to wait in line at passport control worth the high price tag? For some, maybe.

I rarely wait more than 20 minutes in the queue at any airport in Thailand. Though at busy periods a 30-45 minute wait could happen.

For Elite members, once you have the visa in your passport, your personal assistant will take you through fast-track. You still have to queue to check-in with your flight operator though!

I don't know about you, but I plan my air travel well and make sure I leave plenty of time for check-in, immigration, food, coffee, etc. I leave nothing to chance. Moreover, if your flight is delayed, it makes no difference if you get through immigration quickly or not.

You do get the limo service, which is nice. That is one less thing to think about. But that said, a brand new TOT Mercedes taxi is around 1,200 Baht one way. Or you could take Uber black 🙂 More on that here.

Note: Small groups of immediate family members are allowed to use car and limousine access and may also be allowed to pass through exit immigration with you at the discretion of the immigration officer.

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Investment & Business Opportunities Vs. Reality

For me this is probably one of the better benefits, if it truly is an in-road to opportunity.

Having a contact who can facilitate government and private sector opportunities would be priceless, especially in Thailand, where who you know goes a long way.

If you have a problem or need a favour, pick up the phone and use your elite status to build bridges.

But what does this actually mean? It's ambiguous. It guarantees nothing.

Can you get the phone number of the person you need to speak to? Does your assistant translate for you on a daily basis? I very much doubt you will get the assistant for a day at a time to take minutes and translate at a meeting.

So I'm skeptical on this. I need more specifics on the resources available.

Free Medical Check-Up Vs. Real Cost

While it may be tempting to opt in because of the ‘free and comprehensive check up', in reality this will amount to an approximate saving of 11,000 THB, annually. Honestly, these check-ups are not expensive. My local hospital sends me a 50% off voucher every birthday.

Banking Privileges Vs. Do the Math

The bank savings are pretty minimal. Honestly, this is pittance. I would recommend Bangkok Bank though (the official Elite Visa partner). Using TransferWise will makes those savings and much more. I wrote about that here.

Shopping, Golf & Spa Discounts Vs. High Street Prices

Discounts at the most expensive spas don't appeal to me. I pay 200-400 Baht per massage depending on the location and always give a 100 Baht tip.

Even with the discount, at these high-end fancy places it works out at silly money for what you can get for a 1/3 of the price elsewhere. Okay, maybe I will treat my mum if she comes for a holiday, but generally I wouldn't use it.

I don't want to buy designer clothes at twice the price they are in the UK, either. I can't stand Emporium and Em Quartier either. I'm cool at Terminal 21 or elsewhere with the “average people”. Discounted shopping is available at the airport anyway, and at King Power stores. I'm not convinced that this benefit is that big.

Golf rounds at the top courses can be pricey, so some might appreciate the free rounds. I don't really play. I like a visit to the range though.

The Thailand Elite Visa In Summary

The skeptical side of me thinks: It is what it says on the tin: An Elite Visa. It makes you feel good.

A one-off payment: you get a fancy card, you don't wait in line at the airport with the plebs, you don't have to pay for a car to the airport, you can whip out your expensive card at over-priced spas and malls.

On balance though, the real benefits are:

  • If you live in one of the major cities, you can avoid 90-day reporting at immigration.
  • You can potentially stay for 5-years, because the visa is renewable in Thailand (can be rolled over – the period is 5 years).
  • You can avoid the hassle of the financial requirements of a retirement visa.
  • It's a way for anyone not yet eligible for a retirement visa to stay long term without visa run hassles.

* Remember though: not all the benefits apply to every tier. So you need to analyse the tiers before making a decision.

If you have 500k-2M Baht to spare and your kids won't mind losing this part of their inheritance, it does make life easier.

I personally wouldn't go for one now. I do hate dealing with immigration, but I'm young enough to endure a queue and book my own taxi.

Currently, my Non-O visa gets me 5 months at a time (90 days + 60-day extension). I can then fly home, or elsewhere, and then re-enter for another 90 days. This suits me.

If I have a spare 20 grand (GBP) when I hit 50-65, I would consider it. Hopefully by then they will have eliminated 90-day reporting altogether!

You can visit the Elite Visa website here.

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  1. Martin says

    Hi , I’m currently on a 0-A ‘ retirement extension and have been for 4 years now , having to show 800k etc .. no problem , BUT now they are bringing out mandatory Health insurance , which for a young 60 year old like me will cost a min ( I just got a quote ) of 53,000 bht for one year .. I already have accident insurance and life cover , if I ever get Ill I’ll go back to the uk , so I dint want to take out this insurance before I go for my next extension... SO I’m thinking of going for a 5 year elite visa ,, 2 questions , can I change my current yearly extension to an elite visa and when I go for my yearly ELITE extension what are the requirements, if any , obviously not 800k needed .. I’d imagine , and does it also eliminate tm30s .. and ofcourse NO health insurance required ?
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    • James E says

      There is no annual extension of the Elite Visa, it's a 5-year visa (or more if you splurge). If you're planning on staying more than a year they'll handle getting your stay extended (1,900THB), otherwise every time you enter Thailand you get stamped in for a year. It's run through private companies so you can't extend/change your current visa to an Elite; you'll have to re-apply (although I don't think you need to be out of country for the application). The TM-30 is still required as you're a foreigner. There are some good arguments for an Elite if 100KBaht/year isn't an issue but be aware that Thailand has been known to be kind of sudden with rule changes so the health insurance and bank deposits might become a thing. The other consideration I would have is if the gov't decided to pull the Elite. You could leave a bunch of money on the table. NOTE: I just checked https://www.thailandelitevisa.com/ and they're still using August's exchange rate for US$ so it's a bit of a bargain right now paying in US$.
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      • Martin says

        Thanks for the reply James 👍🏻 Unfortunately I need to go back to the uk next week due to my 88 year old mother being ill , otherwise I haven’t even left the country for 3 1/2 years . So if you can’t change your current ( extension) in my case surely you just apply for the elite .. and ignore the current extension as the elite would take president when you get it . Secondly saying you get a new year everytime you enter the the country Doesn’t make sense in a way , because A , I don’t intend to leave the country hardly if ever and B , if you leave the country say 10 times in a year , each time they do what ? ..
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        • James E says

          Yes, probably. They may just start the Elite after your current visa expires. Dunno. A - If you don't leave the country then you have to get a new stamp every year for 1900THB. I think the company you get the Elite through can take care of that. That would be a question for them to be certain. B - Yup, one year each time. Say you arrived on November 1. 2019. You would be stamped in to October 31, 2020. If you left on January 1, 2020 you would be stamped out on that date. When you came back in on February 1, 2020 you would be stamped in until January 31, 2021. If you play it right you can make the visa last for 6 years.
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  2. Robert says

    This is a very good article. But I am surprised that there are not more comments. And, noticeably lacking is anyone saying, "I have an Elite Visa and I like it because.......... " What to holders of this visa think??
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  3. Torben Retboll says

    These days (2019) there is a lot of talk about TM 30. You must report your address whenever you mive to a new place. This must be done by you or a hotel or a building manager within 24 hours.What about people who have the elite card? Do they have to do this as well? Or dies the rule not apply to them? Please explain.
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  4. Roger Lefebvre says

    I've been living in Thailand for about 12 years now on a non immigrant oa visa. I have a seven year old daughter (thai)...so I just extend my visa every year for a year at 1,900 B... I have a ?... My embassy (Canadian) would provide me with a letter from the Consul G, certifying my pension income from Canada. Now the embassy is planning on not providing this service .What options do I have... I know I can deposit 800.000 in a bank but I don't have that. Will some notorized letter from a layer with copies of bank statements from Canada suffice. I'm good till oct 2019. roger
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  5. Tony says

    I would like to have up to date information on the Elite Visa please. I am 75 years of age and am interested in staying in Thailand for 10 years , with occasional long periods outside , in Malaysia . Is there a singles Elite 10 year residency ? How much does it cost! Any reporting requirements during the period ? Any medical needed for the visa ? Are there any extra costs e.g. entrance or delarture during the period ? Thanks
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    • Lea says

      You will find more information here. http://www.thai-elite.com Think 800k-1M for 10yrs I don't think you have to pay more as I didn't. The only thing is that you have to wait for background checks passes (luckily before they make you pay) . Then if you are in Thailand you have to fly out to get visa stamp/sticker when you come back (that's what I did). You need to inform the elite when you want to come back as they will guide you to the immigration officer office (the officer who handled mine was grumpy and asked too many questions but was glad that the elite guide was there, then was transferred to the counter immigration) I have the 20yrs and renewable every 5yrs. Be aware that the length of the visa sticker on your passport is same as your passport expiration date. Also If you can, better renew your passport first so you don't end up carrying two passport with you all the time unless you have the time to go the main immigration in Bkk to transfer it (currently having that delima)...call center is very helpful and pick up your call super fast. You can ask them for more information.
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    • Johnny says

      You would be better off in this situation to just get the 10 year renewable Malaysia My Second Home visa which only requires you a bank deposit of $35k USD and showing you have $2500 USD/month income in some form. Then when you want to go to Thailand just go in for a month or 2 at a time on a visa extension or for 2-3 months on a tourist visa. You have to pay big money for the Elite visa and you never get that back. Take that money and put it towards a home in Malaysia or something like this instead. Malaysia also has no restrictions on foreigners owning a home like Thailand does.
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  6. Kevin B says

    The only issue with your opinion section is that you can't continue to get tourist visas back to back for very long, certainly not for 5 years and definitely not 20 years. Your only option if not working is to get some sort of ED visa, which they still don't let you do for more than 3-5 years depending on the curriculum.ED visa with classes cost about 50,000 a year including the visa runs, extensions, etc. That's still a better deal than the 5 year Elite visa, especially as you get the courses as well. However, the 20 year visa comes to about the same (1mil / 20y = 50k/y).I'd say if you'll definitely stay in Thailand for 20 years it's worth is from a cost perspective as 1) The price might go up in couple of decades, and 2) the price for the alternatives (ED Visa, extensions, etc) might also increase. The peace of mind is also worth something.You can do the 90 day check-in online... sometimes.
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    • James E says

      Valid arguments all, but with the caveat that some have cash - and the Elite visa becomes a possibility - and some have cash flow - which relegates us to alternative visas and forced vacations to Laos.
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      • Kevin B says

        James E, if you don't have the cash then it's not an option so that's kind of irrelevant to the debate. You have no choice but to jump through the hoops.An alternative though might be to open a company and get yourself a work permit. I wonder what the yearly minimum cost breakdown for that would be.
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        • James E says

          Kevin,That's a really interesting idea. I've been toying with some ideas anyway.The whole not enough cash thing is more a comment about how many other countries looking to capitalize on Expat retirement income - think Panama, Costa Rica, EC Islands. For example, Permanent Residency in Grenada (a really wonderful place) costs about US$105. In Costa Rica you can get a temporary residency visa (3 years) for US$200 which can be upgraded after 3 years to permanent residency and only have to show US$1,000/month in income.I think Thailand is trying to head in that direction with options like the O-X visa but, as with the Elite Visa, the baggage that comes along with the current slate of options - visa runs, in-country deposits, health insurance, etc. - seems like more of a disincentive to a group of people who are trying to spend every last satang before they pack it in.
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      • James E says

        Jordan also has a good point. The non-imm visas don't even have to be O-X they can be any non-imm visa as long as there are three consecutive years. The kicker (it's Thailand, there's always a kicker...) is that when you go to apply for residency you have to do so under one of several predefined categories. The monthly income requirement of 80,000 THB is also more onerous than for the O-A visa (assuming you're not married to a Thai citizen). While "Retirement" is listed as one of the categories there is also a requirement that the applicant hold a 3-year work permit when they make their application.
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  7. Sharon says

    Good afternoon James, My husband and I already have multi entry retirement visas. I understand the 90 day report filing. My question is do we (personally) have to go to apply for the yearly visa (800,000 bht each for 3 months, etc) We live in Phuket and are looking at 5 yr. Easy Access or Family Excursion, not sure. Is the Family Excursion 800,000 bht for both of us and the additional 300,000 but for the third member? Could you clarify that as well. We would really appreciate your knowledge and feedback.
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    • TheThailandLife says

      You apply for the Visa once, and then is extended each year for five years - depending on which Visa you choose. Every member is required to do 90 day reporting at the Immigration office in either Bangkok, Chiangmai, Phuket or Pattaya. If you living either of these major cities you can take your passport to their office and a member of staff will process it for you. You can pick up your passport after 72 hours.The answer to your last question isn't 100% clear, but the way I read it is that it is 800,000 for the Visa and one person, and then 300,000 each for a minimum of two members.
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    • AH says

      Good evening,what a lovely day at the embassy in Brussels. I went there with my daughter and partner. We had everything filled in as it should be, plenty of copies etc.My daughter was accepted at an International school in BKK. I had proof of this, letter from the ministry of education to proof that school is accredited. We applied for my daughter for an education Visa: They are now questioning that my daughters name is not written on the document from the ministry of education which shows that the school is recognised.For my partner/mother of our daughter, we were applying for a non-immigrant O-visa as a guardian.For me, as I am over 50, I was applying for a non-immigrant O visa/retirement.I showed them that I have +-100,000 Bath income per month. I showed them bank accounts showing a very healthy balance. Letter from my bank, last 3 months bank statements, police clearing etc.All documents as requested. They were very rude, arrogant and intimidating. How often did they ask me, if I am going to work in Thailand/ I told them, that I won't work, that I have an income and that I am there for my daughter. They did not believe this.At the end, they only told over and over again, that they are not interested what I am saying. They gave us all original documents including passports back and told us, that they would hand over the documents to the consul.What a mess. We are flying in 3 weeks and I thought it was a walk through the park as financially all good, not going to work there, daughter in private school: Now we are here, sitting and waiting to get sometimes a phone call.How would the VIP visa work (in case we do not get a visa) School fees must be paid in 3 weeks.Worried!!!!
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  8. Joan says

    Hello, Can anybody here clarify when obatianed a ELTE VISA, does the visa holder still have to report to the immigration office every 90-days? Because this is the only factor that will affect my deciosn whether or not to buy it. In my case, I would not likely to come to Thiland to do this kind of job.
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    • TheThailandLife says

      Read the section under the heading Hassle-Free Immigration. If in Bangkok, Chang Mai, Phuket or Pattaya you can hand your passport and forms in at the elite visa office and they will do it for you. You then go back to pick up your passport. If living outside of these places, you will still have to report yourself.
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      • Joan says

        Thanks for reply. Then, this is a real problem as I will mostly stayed in my country, if I have to report in person every 90 days, that means I will have to travel thoundsand miles every 3 month by flight to make it happen, which just seems impossible and makes this visa none vaule for me.
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        • TheThailandLife says

          You would only report if you were in the country and staying longer than 90 days. You wouldn't need to fly back to Thailand to report. If you are mostly staying in your country why would you consider this visa? You could just get a tourist visa each time you want to visit. Single entry gives you 60 days in one go, and you can extend it by 30 days at immigration for just 1,900 Baht.
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          • Joan says

            Sorry, I maybe off topic. If I apply for retirement visa, how can I open a bank account to deposit the required fund since the regulation says the tourist visa holder are not eligible to open a bank account in Thailand? I searched quite a while on internet trying to find an agent on this business, but only found 1-2 company is stuffed everywhere on the search result and no trustworthy source is found in this regards.And further my question, as far as I know, the spouse (under 50) and the child can not have a dependant wisa unless the retirment visa holder has a work permit? Please correct if i am wrong.But if you go for a retirement visa, how would you get your family (wife assuming she is under 50 and child) go alongside with you?
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            • TheThailandLife says

              You will enter the country on a Non Immigrant visa, with the intention of filing for your retirement visa before the 90 days is up. You can open a bank account for the purpose of depositing the money. See this topic: https://www.thethailandlife.com/thai-bank-account-foreignersNot correct: If your spouse has not reached the age of 50, she/he can act as your dependent, otherwise the spouse is required to obtain a retirement visa.
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              • Joan says

                Thanks. But I am still confused. What do you refer by the Non Immigrant visa, does it include tourist visa? As I can only get a tourist visa from the embassy to enter the country in the purpose of applying for retirement visa, and I will have no apartment rental contract or work permit or anything it seems required to open account( I read the link you posted about how to open a bank account in Thailand), am i able to acquire a bank account? and by how? From my perspective, it's quite contradictory that they need a Non Immigrant visa to open bank account to deposit 800k to be eligible for applying retirement visa, and on other hand, the person who apply for the visa obviously enter the country with the tourist visa, of which holder are not allowed to open a account.
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                • James E says

                  Joan, When I looked into this last year (in the U.S.) the Thai Embassy told me I could apply for the O-A visa in the U.S. using my U.S. accounts as the 800,000 Baht requirement. I'd check with the Thai Embassy in your home country and see if that's the case there. My guess is, if you go to the embassy's local website AND they give you a way to apply for the O-A in your country then you should be able to use your local assets to meet the requirement. But check with them to be sure.Also, if you check out the "How to Open a Bank Account..." post that TTL wrote you'll find all sorts of stories about people who have opened a bank account (myself included) when only having a tourist visa.Good luck!
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                  • Joan says

                    Hello James, Sure, I will double check this with the embassy in my county. From what I've know, the person who can provide a proof of the monthly income of 65000 Baht to the embassy, he will just be able to meet the fund requirements and get the visa issued to him in his own country. Unfortunately, that is not my case.
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                    • James E says

                      Hi Joan,This is what I found: "Bank statement or evidence of adequate finance showing a deposit of the amount equal to and not less than 800,000 Baht or an income certificate (an original copy) with a monthly income of not less than 65,000 Baht, or a deposit account plus a monthly income totaling not less than 800,000 Baht In the case of submitting a bank statement, a letter of guarantee from the bank (an original copy) is required"What they don't say is how the income and deposit account is added together, I'm guessing it's an annual calculation (given the length of the visa). So an income of - say - 20000THB/month PLUS a deposit account of 560000 THB would total up to 800000.I never asked this specific question of the embassy here but there is the combined income + deposit route available to you.

  9. andy says

    Hi. Can't appreciate enough all the info you provide here. Thanks very much.I'm 50+. Indian national. Been travelling to Thailand for short periods (5-7 days) twice a year on a tourist visa on arrival.I'd like to visit more frequently, say 4/5 times a year, not intending to stay more than a week at a time.Will immigration raise eyebrows if i visit 4/5 times a year on a regular tourist visa?With the given purpose, would it better to go for a retirement visa?Please correct me if i'm wrong, but one key difference between the Elite Visa and the Retirement Visa seems to be that the 500K on the Elite Visa is a write off, and the 800 K continues to belong to the retiree.Thanks again. Your blog is my find of the year.
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    • TheThailandLife says

      Hi Andy,No worries. If you don't intend to stay more than a week I don't see an issue, because you are entitled to visa on arrival for a holiday. As long as you aren't going in and out one day after the next and immigration can clearly see you are returning home to your home country then I don't think this constitutes abuse of the system in any way. Moreover, I assume you are staying in a hotel, which can be seen from your arrival card, and is another indication that your visit is legitimate.Correct on the Elite Vs. Retirement visa.
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  10. James Anderson says

    Hi I'm a bit confused about the ELITE FAMILY EXCURSION MEMBERSHIP which is a 5 year option. For Membership it says at least two persons. The cost is 800,000 THB, but in the next column it says Additional Membership cost 300,000 THB. Does the 800,000 THB cover 2 people, or do you need to pay 800+300 = 1.1 Million Baht for 2 people? If that were the case than the Elite Easy Access would make more sense since it is 500,000 THB per person thus 2 people = 1 Million Baht for that option.If the Family Excursion visa covers 2 people for 5 years for 800,000 that is a good deal in my opinion. Do you know if the Family Excursion visa covers 2 people for 800k or not?
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    • Alf says

      Good morning James.I am as well confused. We, a family of 3 (partner, daughter and me) are also looking into best VISA options. the family EliteVIP Visa speaks about 800k Would it be 800k for all of us or 800k plus 2x300k or 800k (family of 2) plus 1x300k What is a family? Couple or couple plus kid(s) or if you want to add another family member like f.ex. your parents etc. Also available for me would be the retirement Visa as I am over 50Hope to get best clarification in order to make a decision.All the best and good luck.
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    • TheThailandLife says

      I just had a look at that and it really isn't clear if the 800k covers 2 persons, and then it's 300k for very other person thereafter. You'll have to drop them an email I'm afraid. Let me know what they say!
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      • James Anderson says

        I've emailed the Thailand Elite Visa contact group and received dozens of nonsensical responses that show zero interest in my question regarding whether or not the Family Excursion visa covers 2 people for 800k THB or not. It's a huge turn off to getting the visa at all. Every response is generic touting the benefits of the visa and insisting I email a scan of my passport to initiate a background check then pay for the visa. If I didn't know better I would think the Thailand Elite Visa was a scam, but obviously it's not. It's maddening how incompetent the staff replying to the email are. I am fluent in Thai and wrote the email in both Thai and English but I don't think the staff are Thai. Can anyone answer the simple question if The Thailand Elite Family Excursion version of the email covers 2 people for the cost of 800k or not?
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        • James E says

          Have you looked at any of the authorized (or authorised, if you prefer) agent sites? The "official" site, as you noted, is significantly less than clear. I had a look at https://www.thailandelitevisa.com/ and they describe the 5-year family option as a Core member (US$25,600) and one or more Additional members (US$22,400). So 800 Kilo-Baht +/- for the core member and 700 KB for each additional.
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          • alfred says

            I would not call this a family VIP visa. You have a couple and there is a family. If you have to pay for each child as much, it is not worth to sell this as a family visa. I will probably go down the retirement visa.Regards and good luck,
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          • James Anderson says

            James E,IT does look more clear on that site. However I'm seeing different values for the 5 Elite Family Excursion. I believe you are quoting the 10 Years Elite Family Alternative visa. Membership Fee : USD 25,600 (VAT Included) & Additional Member : USD 22,400 (VAT Included) /...1st member 25,600 USD additional member 9,600 USDso total of 35,200 USD 7,040 USD per year.That's 1,109,627.20 THB total. More than I was hoping but depending on circumstances possibly worth it.The 5 year Elite Easy Access however is a better value at 16,000 USD per person. That's 32,000 USD for two people and 1,008,752.00 THB for 5 years. They claim it's partial membership but all I'm really looking for is the Visa itself.
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  11. Alf says

    Good afternoon, thank you very much for this brilliant webpage. My wife, daughter and myself are considering to move to BKK. We are European Citizen and are trying to figure out the best Visa options. Me, I am just over 50 years old. Our daughter is still very young and will most probably attend an international school. What would be the best option? Applying for a retiree Visa. I am not retired but I draw each months dividends and rental income which would allow us to live in Thailand. In case we would go for the retirement visa, can my partner (not married but mother of our child) and my daughter come in on the same visa? Or better, applying for the Elite Visa. Looking forward to get some help. Keep up the good work.Regards,
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    • TheThailandLife says

      Hi Alf,The Elite visa would be pretty expensive - even on the cheapest tier on which you can add family members. That said, if money is no issue then it would suit you. But you're not married so your GF would need her own Elite visa, as I'm sure you have to be married or related to be considered family. Your daughter can be added to the Elite visa for the additional fee.Again, you're not married, so your wife can't be a dependent on your retirement visa, but she could get her own if over 50. Your daughter can be a dependent.
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  15. George says

    Your analysis is well done for those who come from visa-exempt countries and can enter and exit thailand easily (visa runs), for the rest who need a visa everytime they want to come back to thailand, i find the elite visa very handy.
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  16. Giorgos says

    Hello thailandlife,Excellent writing, cheers for that. I always want to have a plan b in my life and i do strongly believe that the elite visa is a good alternative to avoid the visa run hassle. I have done a visa run before (through a van) and you definitely do not want to do this again in your life (very scary plus dangerous). The costs associated with the visa runs for the whole year should be much more by taking a plane.Nevertheless, in your calculation you should have stated that every year the cost of Elite is 100k (multiplied by 5 =500.000baht)then the money difference between the mickey monkey visa runs it does make sense.By the way, the visa extension can be done only 3 or 4 times, after utilising them you have to do visa runs every single month....Do i miss something here? cheers
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    • TheThailandLife says

      You're right, the cost of leaving and coming back in to Thailand by plane would be more expensive, but if you treat it as a holiday every few months then it's a chance to explore new places. Your visa runs are limited if you are on a tourist visa or entry exemption (30 days on entry) but if you are on a Non O visa you have to leave every 3 months and have multiple entry for the duration of the visa (1 year). You can stay in the country on a Non O visa and not have to leave every 90 days if you go down the financial requirements route, but you will still have to do 90-day reporting. The retirement visa also enables you to stay in the country (also with 90-day reporting).
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      • Giorgos says

        Cheers for the reply. i though that when i get a reply in my post i will receive an email notification but this did not happen. Can you please let me know the alternatives (from elite) for a single guy that wants to stay for long in Thailand? I would say that the only option is visa runs every single month, that's a lot of money right?Kindly list the options and let's identify the best because the non immigrant visa is limited to certain cases. We are not talking about grandpas(in a good way) that can easily make a retirement visa but people between the age of 20-49. Actually i just remember that you can pretend that you are a student learning Thai and get a visa for a while....
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        • TheThailandLife says

          Make sure the 'Notify me when new comments are added' box is ticked and you will get the notifications.Like you say, you can get an ED visa if you study at school. Don't pretend though, you might get caught out. You can get a 6-month tourist visa that requires you to leave every 60 days, but this can be extended at immigration by 30 days, so on one stay you could get 90 days straight.Or get a job. With that comes a work permit, which permits you to stay for the duration of employment.
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  17. Mary says

    Hi, Good work !.By reading all the queries and your prompt answers, I am also tempted to post my question. We are Indian nationals, staying in the UAE. have been thinking of immigrating to Thailand,particularly to Chiangmai. I was told that the Retirement visa was the best bet. The deposit of 800000 BHT,in the bank account is needed to get the visa. We have one daughter, age 22yrs,who will be accompanying us. As I understand, the retirement visa is for people above 50 yrs.. Please tell me how our daughter can accompany us?
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  18. M Martin says

    I bought one last year and I'm sorry I bothered Too many silly dull ever changing rules for start NO airport service at DMK - ( and the staff couldn't tell me this when I contacted them about my upcoming booking arrival ) So you face the same taxi q as All others etc And the call centre staff really have to be pushed to think outside of the box as far as I have experienced
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  19. Tom says

    Hi, thanks for the article:) So if you put 500K on the table you can basically stay for 5 years back to back without having to do these mandatory TV runs to any other country, right? That comes to 8,4K a month. Not bad, I think. TV runs cost me around 12K+2K for extension, times 4 a year =56K a year. Plus the headaches of maybe being denied at the embassy, cause you have to many stamps.... So basically you pay 44K of a garanteed stamp in your passport:) Let me know what you think.
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    • TheThailandLife says

      That's one way to look at it, but depending on your age you might be able to get a retirement visa - which means you wouldn't have to do any visa runs either. You still have to do 90-day report with the Elite visa (as you do on a retirement visa), though if you live in BKK, Chiang Mai, Pattaya or Phuket you can hand it into their office and they'll do it for you.At the end of the day you are paying for a more hassle-free visa situation. If the money is no issue and you live in a city where they will handle the reporting then it is an option. A holiday every 3 months isn't a bad existence either, though. But if you have difficulty traveling then the Elite Visa is a good option.
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  20. Richard says

    Thai Elite Visa - as regards to Dependents (children below 15 years) can they extend their stay to one year (with their Tourist Visa) without leaving Thailand, by following the Father who has the Elite Visa. Of course they will need to 90 days reporting (any maybe pay the fees as required) ?
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    • TheThailandLife says

      You can't extend a tourist visa by 1-year. They would need a different visa, such as an Ed visa if going to school. Or, you could get one of the family visa options where you can add on family members. For example: the Elite Family Alternative Package, which is 800,000 THB (plus 700,000 THB for additional family members).
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      • Richard says

        Sorry for the late reply. I had check the FAQ (Elite Visa website) and it states that children below 14 years are allowed to follow the Elite Visa holder. Would that means my children can follow me by applying for Extension of Stay after their Tourist Visa have expired ?? Regarding the Elite Family Alternative Package (800,000 thb) - can 2 of children qualified or only 1 is allowed ?? Thanks. Richard
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  21. Bokachoda says

    Great post and I loved the way you delineated all the differences between Thailand Elite Visa and Visa's of other categories. I am planning to buy the 5 years Thai elite visa for myself only, and I would like to ask you is there any preference basis nationality that the Thai govt has while issuing the visa ? I am 29 years old, so will this be a problem? And lastly is THB 500,000 is the only upfront amount that I will have to pay or are there any hidden charges ?
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  22. jitu patel says

    I am in need of connecting ( via e mail ) to some one from usa as well as India who are on retirement visa in Thailand! I live in usa ( age 77) us citizen my friend lives in india age 46 indiancitizen
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  23. mikes says

    good article. I'm from US and have done Non-Immigrant O or B 1 year multiple entry visas for the last 4 years. Similar to you, I actually don't mind leaving every few months. In fact, I love to travel so end up doing it anyway. The real time saver is if I do get close to the 90 day (which for me is rare) I simply use the services of the little offices they always have next to immigration - for less than 1000B they make sure all the paperwork is perfect. I have yet to use the 90 day report in the Immigration website but have several colleagues that really only live in the Kingdom (e.g. retired) and they love the website.. Additionally, at BKK I will almost always have at least 2 Premium Lane passes with me so, never any real line there. Quite frankly, I wait longer for my bags. Even with "preferred"-ness on airlines (i.e. your bags come out first) its still takes time and I'm always through Immigration before my bags show up. For the last 2 years, All I do in BKK for auto transportation in UBER. Otherwise I walk or take BTS. If I'm heading to other areas like Pattaya, then for 1500 or less I get a nice new car and have always had a driver with a perfect personality. Golf? Nope. Shopping? Nope. Massage? Just like you --> 1000THB or less all in (I like 2 hours ;-) Medical? There is no savings, even Bumrungrad has specials much like you noted. **the business benefit is indeed interesting *** But as of 2017, the Thailand 4.0 initiative and their Thailand Digital Park looks like it will open a bunch of doors for businesses and individuals. I bet I'll be able to get all of the "benefits" that would be interesting to ME by partnering with them in that area. Thanks again for the website and articles. Keep 'em coming. Best, ~mikes
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    • TheThailandLife says

      Thanks for sharing your experience Mikes. The Elite visa is a lifestyle choice really. You have to look at what you currently do, or could do, and then weigh that up against the cost. When I first looked at the Elite visa, the main attraction was, or so I thought, not having to deal with immigration at all – so no 90-day reporting/extensions. But this isn't actually the case. Even if you live in one of the major cities where an "Elite assistant" will help you report, you still have to go to their offices and drop off your passport, then wait 2 days to get it back.And as you say, retirees are using the website now anyway.Uber is quite like having a personal airport transfer service in itself, so perhaps the only real benefit is fast track immigration at the airport.Personally, I think the benefits are too superficial vs. cost. I think they need to do better!
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  24. Thomas says

    Good Morning. Hope your in good health. I have a question I forgot to ask you. I don't really want to Open a Thai Bank Account. I know ATM Fees can be a little high. Yet, I think I would prefer to use ATM at first. Anyway, I will on occasion need a Money Order or Cashier Check. I know it may sound stupid, but, are these available in Thailand? If so, we would I be able to purchase them? Appreciate again your help in this matter. Have a Great Weekend.
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      • Thomas says

        Thanks a lot guy. Your the best. I wish many others were willing to share information as freely as you. When I re-locate to Thailand. I'll remember all the information you shared and try to share with others when and if I can. Have a Great Day.
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  25. thomas says

    Good Morning (well morning here in the U.S.) I had to resubmit my paperwork for my Thai Retirement Visa (no big problem, just that the Doctor forgot to put his License Number on the Medical Form that's required. Took care of it and re-submitted it. Should still be there in Aug.) However while doing so.I thought of another question I would like to ask. Once I'm in Thailand, will it be a problem for me to leave on a vacation to Germany to visit old friends and than return to Thailand on my Retirement Visa? Will I have to do any other paperwork? Also ( I know I'm being greedy.) Do you (or maybe some of your followers) live in Bangkok? If so, do you have any apartment/condo rental's you might recommend. I'm trying to stay in the $500-550 range. If you don't or can't, I understand. Appreciate any assistance you may provide.Also, I was surfing U Tube sites of Ex-pats who live in Thailand with blog sites. Came across one yesterday that rated what they felt were the Top 10 for this year. Didn't see you on the list. Do you have a U Tube site? Your site is the most informative and willing to share information I've come across in the past 2 years. So, if you do, what's the name of it. If not, personally I think you would be great. They don't touch your current site in terms of Useful Information (the standard bars, clubs, food, etc type things.) Again, Thanks in advance for any information pertaining to my questions.
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    • TheThailandLife says

      Hi Thomas,Thank you for your kind words. Here are the answers to your questions:1. If you want to leave the country during your visa duration (of 1 year) you can apply for a re-entry permit at the nearest Immigration Office or at the airport before leaving the country. It's actually very easy to get one from the airport.2. How many bedrooms are you looking for in an apartment?3. I do have a YouTube channel here but it is quite a mix of videos really and I don't really upload regularly: some are viral videos from Thailand that have been shared around the web, some are learn Thai lessons and some are reviews of beaches and hotels I do when I am there. I prefer the blog format for providing information and insights and it has always worked well for my readers. I'm not really trying to get attention for me personally as an online celebrity either, but rather just give people a place online that provides honest insight and opinion based on experience.
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      • Thomas says

        As usual. Can't Thank you enough for your quick response and informative answers. It is Greatly Appreciated.No need to Thank me for my "Kind Words." Simply expressing the truth. I'm sure I am simply echoing the sentiments of many of your followers.I understand your position on the subject of U Tube. Your one of a kind. So many will post videos, however, will not share any specific information.As to the number of bedrooms I'm looking for. A Studio Condo or 1 Bedroom is all I really need as it is just me. I've been searching on U Tube. I found a couple of interesting ones. One was a Sukhumvit Soi 15 Residence and the other at the President Condo at Soi 81 I think it was at the On Nut BTS. I contacted the Residence, however they said it was to far out to project a vacancy.Again. I greatly appreciate your assistance.
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        • TheThailandLife says

          I think you are looking in the right area: On Nut, Bearing, Udom Suk way has some new condo blocks in that price range. It is a little further out but you can still be in town within 10-20 minutes on the BTS.You might also have a look at the other side of town, notably Param 9, Huay Kwang, Suttisan, Ratchada. These areas are on the MRT line and also very quick into central Sukhumvit.
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